This Cab goes down to 65 Hz pretty much straight, then its starts to roll of. -3 dB point is around 60 Hz
That means it is also working with a 6 string.
well i have one, and it surely works =)
now if you thinks you need a box doing 32 Hz you re qute wrong actually you dont want to have 32 hz =) unless you have a 3Kwatt Amp and a couple of 18 Drivers handy and want to make some sensuround in da house. its going to be a earth quake.
the actual tone wich we hear as a pitch from a low B ia great part of it is around 120 Hz. 64 makes it fatter, 32 Hz makes a very low biiig Rumble.
Usually the dBs in the specs are measured at 1 Khz.
In my case this speaker has 103 dB with one watt
No Tweeter is needet unless you really want a super bright tweeter sound.
I think it sounds bright enough in flat position, I usually even lower it a litle.
The most positive point about a one-way speaker is, there is no Crossover network involved, a crossover networks allways diminishes punch dynamics and if you ask me also the sound.
I have not heard one passive crossover network wich doesent lessens the original signal or has phaseshifting of some sort.
many crossovers i heard sound dull.
Sometimes the negative sides of a Crossover are covered very well, but if you have experience you still can hear it.
The cabs I made here dont seem to be loud, I think its because of the clear sound with no distortion produced by the Chassis.
this makes you think its not loud, but you can feel the sound pressure in yout ears. and the best part is you dont really need to screw open the Volume you can hear it very well in a loud Band.
its also very percussive you have a nice strong low frequency attack wich really pushes air.
This stack of 2*12s can deliver 126 db before reaching Xmax.
and also because the driver couples it will throw the sound farther than just one Cab.
Xmax means there is absolutely no audible distortion up to 126 dB.
im not sure if you call that distortion in english. sometimes its referred to as K2 K3.
You can go quite a bit over that before you hear any distortion.
Im pretty its probabbly over 130 dB.
Drivers with that kind of parameters are quite expensive because of the large magnet needet. its sad zthat many comanys save on that point and often put drivers wich seem to be loud but actualy its distortion because the magnet is to small.there is also other tricks like bumps around a certain area in the ferquency spectrum.
I made the resonse of the cab as flat as possible and I took the bigges Magnet lenght i could find and is stull affordable because I dont like bumps i can add bumps if i need it =)
Well lots of technical talk, i know, but these are real important points in order to get a clear sound out of a Cab.
Of course you also need also a good Amp wich can deliver the Ampere for those 130 dB other wise it will distort, but not from the Speaker =)
1 cab can take 300 Watts Rms 600 watts peak
2 cabs can take 600 watts Rms 1200 watts peak
3 cabs ...... well i think you re deaf or had enough any way by then =)
In a simple Example:
2 of these 12" cabs are almost as loud as a 4-10 Eden I tryed that side by side. I dint measure it but im Guessing its about 1to max 2 dB difference.
that means:
2*12 = 1000cm2 membrane suface
4*10 = 1400cm2 membrane suface
4*10s have 30-40 % more membrane surface depends on the model.
My Cab soundet a lot warmer, fuller and clearer, and thats not only to my ears. the owner of the Eden was quite surprised.
The Eden was more agressive in the mids, wich tells me that it isnt a flat response cab. In general the Eden has a rougher sound.
I have to say that doesent has to be a bad thing. its a question of taste.my Cabs character is closer to a recent Markbass Cab, but quite fatter and a lot warmer and not harsh like those.
well I have to say I was very sceptical how that is going to sound and i was very much surprised on the result.
Looks lke its true that some times also a blind chickn finds a corn.
I guess i have to go to stores and ask more bassists to try it and see what they say =)
The amp I use is a Demeter HB 600 flat response amp very clear sound, with a good EQ wich allows to shape the sound very well if you need to adjust to a room. I dont use the EQ normally with this Cab. maybe some low cut becaus it really goes almost to Low,
but rather cut than boost ; )
I could try a Eden WT1000 with a very old Demeter Pre and see how that does but I guess thats not that much of a difference.
I make Speakers for over 20 years, now I made this mostly because I could not find something I really liked.
My next project is a 4 -10. and a Tube OTL power amp.
And of course I play Bass =)
Cheers Lemon
oups forgot the Dimensions...
its 54cm wide like a rack 38 cm deep and 46 cm high
That means it is also working with a 6 string.
well i have one, and it surely works =)
now if you thinks you need a box doing 32 Hz you re qute wrong actually you dont want to have 32 hz =) unless you have a 3Kwatt Amp and a couple of 18 Drivers handy and want to make some sensuround in da house. its going to be a earth quake.
the actual tone wich we hear as a pitch from a low B ia great part of it is around 120 Hz. 64 makes it fatter, 32 Hz makes a very low biiig Rumble.
Usually the dBs in the specs are measured at 1 Khz.
In my case this speaker has 103 dB with one watt
No Tweeter is needet unless you really want a super bright tweeter sound.
I think it sounds bright enough in flat position, I usually even lower it a litle.
The most positive point about a one-way speaker is, there is no Crossover network involved, a crossover networks allways diminishes punch dynamics and if you ask me also the sound.
I have not heard one passive crossover network wich doesent lessens the original signal or has phaseshifting of some sort.
many crossovers i heard sound dull.
Sometimes the negative sides of a Crossover are covered very well, but if you have experience you still can hear it.
The cabs I made here dont seem to be loud, I think its because of the clear sound with no distortion produced by the Chassis.
this makes you think its not loud, but you can feel the sound pressure in yout ears. and the best part is you dont really need to screw open the Volume you can hear it very well in a loud Band.
its also very percussive you have a nice strong low frequency attack wich really pushes air.
This stack of 2*12s can deliver 126 db before reaching Xmax.
and also because the driver couples it will throw the sound farther than just one Cab.
Xmax means there is absolutely no audible distortion up to 126 dB.
im not sure if you call that distortion in english. sometimes its referred to as K2 K3.
You can go quite a bit over that before you hear any distortion.
Im pretty its probabbly over 130 dB.
Drivers with that kind of parameters are quite expensive because of the large magnet needet. its sad zthat many comanys save on that point and often put drivers wich seem to be loud but actualy its distortion because the magnet is to small.there is also other tricks like bumps around a certain area in the ferquency spectrum.
I made the resonse of the cab as flat as possible and I took the bigges Magnet lenght i could find and is stull affordable because I dont like bumps i can add bumps if i need it =)
Well lots of technical talk, i know, but these are real important points in order to get a clear sound out of a Cab.
Of course you also need also a good Amp wich can deliver the Ampere for those 130 dB other wise it will distort, but not from the Speaker =)
1 cab can take 300 Watts Rms 600 watts peak
2 cabs can take 600 watts Rms 1200 watts peak
3 cabs ...... well i think you re deaf or had enough any way by then =)
In a simple Example:
2 of these 12" cabs are almost as loud as a 4-10 Eden I tryed that side by side. I dint measure it but im Guessing its about 1to max 2 dB difference.
that means:
2*12 = 1000cm2 membrane suface
4*10 = 1400cm2 membrane suface
4*10s have 30-40 % more membrane surface depends on the model.
My Cab soundet a lot warmer, fuller and clearer, and thats not only to my ears. the owner of the Eden was quite surprised.
The Eden was more agressive in the mids, wich tells me that it isnt a flat response cab. In general the Eden has a rougher sound.
I have to say that doesent has to be a bad thing. its a question of taste.my Cabs character is closer to a recent Markbass Cab, but quite fatter and a lot warmer and not harsh like those.
well I have to say I was very sceptical how that is going to sound and i was very much surprised on the result.
Looks lke its true that some times also a blind chickn finds a corn.
I guess i have to go to stores and ask more bassists to try it and see what they say =)
The amp I use is a Demeter HB 600 flat response amp very clear sound, with a good EQ wich allows to shape the sound very well if you need to adjust to a room. I dont use the EQ normally with this Cab. maybe some low cut becaus it really goes almost to Low,
but rather cut than boost ; )
I could try a Eden WT1000 with a very old Demeter Pre and see how that does but I guess thats not that much of a difference.
I make Speakers for over 20 years, now I made this mostly because I could not find something I really liked.
My next project is a 4 -10. and a Tube OTL power amp.
And of course I play Bass =)
Cheers Lemon
oups forgot the Dimensions...
its 54cm wide like a rack 38 cm deep and 46 cm high
Hertz means cycles per second.
