• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

What does the word "acoustic" mean nowadays?

pklima

Commercial User
May 2, 2003
8,465
7,060
Kraków, Polska
Disclosures
Karoryfer Samples
Played a gig last night with a lineup of singer, keys, drums, and me on computer with backing tracks and guitar. Our drummer also plays in a rock band. Before the gig, he posted about it on FB, saying he was going to play something "more acoustic" for a change.

Now, we have keys, electric guitar, and tracks, with a lot of those tracks doing weird stuff, like virtual singers singing sequences of nothing but consonants. His rock band has keys, electric guitar, and bass guitar - arguably theoretically more acoustic, definitely much less electronic than we are. Our singer has also used the word "acoustic" to mean play a song with electric guitar (which is going through the computer for processing as well), keys and drums but no backing tracks.

It seems the word "acoustic" has evolved to mean pretty much "drums are mostly real but not very loud" or "bassist is sitting down". It's like "deejay" in Jamaica has evolved to mean "vocalist". Not that this is terribly important, just a curious thing.

We are Polish, but here's an example from Turkey...



What does "acoustic" mean in your area and scene?
 
What @bholder said.

I'll add that I think your drummer is nuts :). HE considers that acoustic. I don't know anyone else who would.

It's getting creepy how everyone is starting to make up their own definition of words. It's getting even creepier that others are accepting those definitions.
 
Depends upon who is saying it. Usually, when venue owners use it, they are talking about volume. For example, I play in a jazz combo - trumpet, sax, drums, keyboards, and bass. The keyboardist uses a synth, since not many venues have pianos anymore, and I play electric bass. That usually works for acoustic, although technically, 40% of the musicians use amps.
 
  • Like
Reactions: packhowitzer
For a slightly different take on this, there are zoning laws in a lot of cities (mine included) that say you can only have "acoustic" music on restaurant patios or in parks without a special event permit. Here at least that gets interpreted by the city as hollowbody instruments. Plugged into any size amp. So people can get (and have been) shut down for playing solid body guitars through 9v battery powered amps, but don't get in any trouble for blasting an acoustic guitar through a 1000W PA. It's really weird.
 
Around here it means instruments that are normally played acoustically (no amplification) but use sound reinforcement for performance. Unless you're in a venue specifically designed for music (old music halls, some older church buildings, etc) or small with a quiet audience (and no freekin' cappuccino machine!) some amplification is necessary. As soon as FX pedals, loopers, backing tracks, and whatever else some of these "acoustic" acts use are added, I know longer consider it "acoustic".

I love the reference to "the bassist is sitting down" ... :D
 
At Luckenbach, Tx, when they say "acoustic", they mean "acoustic". No amps, no electricity, "acoustic"! I have had many opportunities to play there, and it's on my bucket list, but, alas, I'm a Precision player. Cultural differences I guess.
 
For a slightly different take on this, there are zoning laws in a lot of cities (mine included) that say you can only have "acoustic" music on restaurant patios or in parks without a special event permit. Here at least that gets interpreted by the city as hollowbody instruments. Plugged into any size amp. So people can get (and have been) shut down for playing solid body guitars through 9v battery powered amps, but don't get in any trouble for blasting an acoustic guitar through a 1000W PA. It's really weird.

I heard North Korea was tough, but that's just plain nuts.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 40Hz
So people can get (and have been) shut down for playing solid body guitars through 9v battery powered amps, but don't get in any trouble for blasting an acoustic guitar through a 1000W PA. It's really weird.

That's really weird...
As for commercial "street music" in public places and aside from festivals, here in Germany, it differs from city to city; many forbid the use of amps. There may also be restrictions on using percussions, trumpets/trombones, and similar instruments; like 15 minutes playing a trombone is fine; acoustic (and unplugged) guitar may be played for 45 minutes; starting every full hour, provided no one played the hour, before; you need a license, make a plan when and where and with whom you play, and this and that and... many rules, but it's not impossible ^^

Yet, if it's just for fun, and outside commercial areas (outside city centers), you can play in public where you want, what you want, using anything unless it's unreasonably loud and disturbs others too much - including, of course, animals in a park or forest or this or that or... no rules, but almost impossible :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: Pbassmanca
ukxib.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nev375
It is kind of funny to me how often the terms "acoustic" and "natural" get conflated in some people's minds.

I had somebody once compliment me on using my ABG unplugged because it was so much more "natural" than what they called "electric" music.

I had to ask them what was so "natural" about my instrument? It was made from an unlikely combination of carefully prepared woods from several places around the world and strung with strings composed of a carefully researched and somewhat exotic metal alloy that occurs nowhere in nature. And the design itself was the product of hundred of years of trial and error research on the part of thousands of individuals in several different countries starting with the first plucked string instrument.

My ABG isn't natural at all. It's a human creation. A product if you will. Humans design and build them. They're not found anywhere in nature. Nor is the exact sound it produces.

And today, post the advent of recorded music, how often do people actually listen to physically produced without use of electricity (i.e. "acoustic") music. Is a recording of an acoustic guitar still considered acoustic music?

I think MTV was right when they said "unplugged" was more a term for a certain style of performance (as in lower volume and more intimate in feel) than a term denoting there would be absolutely no use of modern technology or amplification. And most of the viewers of those "unplugged" shows understood and had no problem with that interpretation.