Actually, I would opine that while the first may be rightly called "progressive" the latter should be called "Prog" ...i.e., it's a genre name, not a descriptive adjective.
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What Happened to Prog Rock?!?!
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Actually, I would opine that while the first may be rightly called "progressive" the latter should be called "Prog" ...i.e., it's a genre name, not a descriptive adjective.
No Transatlantic love? Spock's Beard? You want 30 minute epics, Transatlantic is your band.
Big second, third, fourth on Porcupine Tree. Although Steve tends to be a bit melancholic in his writing, his drummer is a monster. But Gavin only appears on albums from 2002 on. I'd actually say start with In Absentia rather than Lightbulb Sun. though.
Spock's Beard, Transatlantic and Flower Kings to me are NOT progressive in a genuine sense at all, more like rehashing and watering down the surface aspects of 70's Genesis and Yes while adding NOTHING new or interesting to it.
For something that is GENUINELY progressive creative and forward thinking, may I recommend for starters:
Present
Univers Zero
Magma
Guapo
5 UU's
Forever Einstein
No Secrets In The Family
The Fibonaccis
Mr. Bungle
Secret Chiefs Three
Minus The Bear
Also try out some Peter Hammill solo outings as well as Van Der Graaf Generator.
I just MIGHT be guilty of listening to that record and playing Dungeons and Dragons at the same time....
Thank GOD i found better ways to waste my time!
Albums like "King Arthur--" are why punk happened, and not to mention the overblown spectacle of Wakey doing it live WITH ICE SKATERS!! LMAO!!!!
If you are not familiar with Gentle Giant, I highly recommend going to Youtube and finding some of their stuff. IMO they were the zenith of Prog in the 70's. Unfortunately, they never got the press they deserved. They broke up in the 80's and will never be reformed. 
If you are not familiar with Gentle Giant, I highly recommend going to Youtube and finding some of their stuff. IMO they were the zenith of Prog in the 70's. Unfortunately, they never got the press they deserved. They broke up in the 80's and will never be reformed.
I LOVED the Giant! They were genuinely creative and did some uniquely their own. Actually, Kerry Minnear, Gary Green and one of their earlier drummers Malcom Mortimore are touring as Three Friends, and they sound quite good.
Well, I mean everyone could define prog in a different way. I personally love bands like The Fall of Troy, Coheed and Cambria, The Mars Volta, all have prog influences. Circa Survive is a great band too...prog with experimental post-rock stuff. Mastodon is great too.
Could someone please explain to me how Circa Survive is prog... I CANNOT hear their bassist and their music seems so bland to me that it makes me car sick. That's apparently just me. Am I listening to the wrong stuff?
That about nails it to me, except the jazz part- with jazz thrown in it becomes Fusion - Jeff Beck Wired comes to mind.
I think Prog has to have classical influences, but not be too metal, no screeming singers either (old school). It becomes metal prog with screeming, which is fine but not true prog to me (Opeth).
The side of prog was Pink Floyd & Moody Blues which had their own thing going.
Porcupine Tree is definately more of the Floyd page.
Transatlantic, Flowerkings, and Spocks Beard are my current favorites although I feel Spocks Beard can be a little Pop sometimes.
For me, Prog. has to do mainly with pushing rock music past basic 4/4, 3-4 minute songs written mostly for radio play.
What about:
Gruvis Malt (Really anything Gavin Castleton has done with a band. BIG fan here)
The sound of Animals Fighting
The Dear Hunter
Facing New York
Grand Silent System
Kaddisfly
There's also this fantastic shameless plug for my own band here: Koro Kidinga (In sig...)
What about:
Gruvis Malt (Really anything Gavin Castleton has done with a band. BIG fan here
)The sound of Animals Fighting
The Dear Hunter
Facing New York
Grand Silent System
Kaddisfly
There's also this fantastic shameless plug for my own band here: Koro Kidinga (In sig...)
Don't know if it's been previously posted, but here's an amusing link for anyone interested in defining prog:
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You are missing the boat - there are more good true prog bands around now than ever. Flower Kings, Porcupine Tree, Transatlantic....search 'em out you might be surprised
I just started listening to Circa Survive the other day and immediatley thought "I have to come here and tell everyone how proggy they are". But then some other guy up there says they're not proggy. Whatcha gonna do
my band is trying to bring prog. rock back. heavy dream theater influence.
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Have two bands for you:
Zun Zun Egui from England Link Removed Heavy rhythm section with polyrhythmic guitars and keys.
A Troop Of Echoes from Rhode Island www.atroopofechoes.com (Full disclosure: my band) Driving bass and drums (think Bruford/Wetton in King Crimson) with saxophone and snarly guitar.
Zun Zun Egui from England Link Removed Heavy rhythm section with polyrhythmic guitars and keys.
A Troop Of Echoes from Rhode Island www.atroopofechoes.com (Full disclosure: my band) Driving bass and drums (think Bruford/Wetton in King Crimson) with saxophone and snarly guitar.
