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What is trolling?

Dr. Cheese

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Lately, a lot of old threads I started have been searched and discussion started again about the topic. One thread feature some rough interaction between me and another member over what I saw as trolling. If I remember corrrectly, we talked privately and came to an understanding.

That brings me to my topic, trolling. In my opinion, trolling is when one deliberately goes against the consensus of a thread just to get a reaction. Here is an example: a few years ago, Ronnie James Dio died and there was a tribute thread in his honor. I read the thread and learned more about an artist who I only knew of through old videos and I learned about him and his variety of Metal. I left the thread more knowledgeable. I contrast this to when Prince died and the great majority mourned his passing, but some people took great pleasure in saying how they disliked him or recounted stories they were negative. Of course, their defense was that they had a right to express their opinions.

My question is when does opinion turn into trolling? I feel that we should look at the tenor of a thread. Is it a commemoration or is it a genuine discussion? People posting might want to ask themselves if they really want to take part in a discussion or do they just want to toss a stink bomb?

The bottom line is that I think as a community, we should strive for intelligent conversation instead of simply stirring up controversy, I know it can be hard to know where to draw the line.
 
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Oooh someone deliberately misinterprets OP in an attempt to appear edgey and relevant!
@AK Bass Guy I thought your post was hilarious, it literally had me lolling, and was a fantastic example of how to troll, (I totally got the joke but....

I'd raise you that you didn't use sarcasm but genuine irony (not the Alanis misinterpretation) and the usage the the origin of the terms which will no doubt be overlooked by some) but the my only reasonable response had to be in the form of a trolling post! Absolutely no offence meant!

Well played Sir, I salute you!



I think this greatly added to the discussion in terms of showing an example of trolling (taking a view counter to the of the OP) and it injected some humour into the mix as the thread, I predict will be pretty dark and a troll fest in no time (internet please prove me wrong:))!

My view is that trolling is taking a deliberate opposing view to cause offence, bad feeling or/and derail a conversation to get negative comments and reactions.

However taking a deliberate opposing view to provoke thought, deeper understanding or interesting discussion can and does look identical to the former.

I do see some on here and every other corner of the internet crying "Troll" when they lack the skills to counter or oppose a view being presented to them.

I've not seen or read the threads you mentioned btw.
Actually my intent was not to be edgy or relevant.
I don’t do edgy, if the need rises my default is snarky.
As far as relevant goes, I’m going on 50 now and haven’t been relevant in a long time.

In regards to the reasoning of my post was as I said it to be.
To inject a little humor into a topic that is depressing and more than likely go badly, quickly.

Also should be noted that I know the difference between sarcasm and irony.
My post mentioning sarcasm was a reply to someone who mentioned that Americans come off as rude online.
So I gave some insight why Americans might appear more rude online than people from other countries.
To recap…
1: Americans use lots of sarcasm IRL, which doesn’t translate well to a screen.
2: Americans compared to other cultures are generally rude in comparison.

That covers that.
I do like the concept of good trolling and bad trolling, maybe not how I would phase it, but I’ll own up to being a good troll if that is the nomenclature we want to use.
I’m going to back under my bridge now.

Before I go here is a completely off topic random music video to brighten everyone’s day.
 
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Actually my intent was not to be edgy or relevant.
I don’t do edgy, if the need rises my default is snarky.
As far as relevant goes, I’m going on 50 now and haven’t been relevant in a long time.

In regards to the reasoning of my post was as I said it to be.
To inject a little humor into a topic that is depressing and more than likely go badly, quickly.

Also should be noted that I know the difference between sarcasm and irony.
My post mentioning sarcasm was a reply to someone who mentioned that Americans come off as rude online.
So I gave some insight why Americans might appear more rude online than people from other countries.
To recap…
1: Americans use lots of sarcasm IRL, which doesn’t translate well to a screen.
2: Americans compared to other cultures are generally rude in comparison.

That covers that.
I do like the concept of good trolling and bad trolling, maybe not how I would phase it, but I’ll own up to being a good troll if that is the nomenclature we want to use.
I’m going to back under my bridge now.

Before I go here is a completely off topic random music video to brighten everyone’s day.

TBH mate, you're reply strongly suggests you didn't take my post in the spirit it was intended. My post was 100% supportive of what you posted.

I'm British, we've forgotten much more about sarcasm and dry humour than most nations will ever learn.


"Oooh someone deliberately misinterprets OP in an attempt to appear edgey and relevant!" This, becasue you totally missed it, was sarcasm!

Peace
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TBH mate, you're reply strongly suggests you didn't take my post in the spirit it was intended. My post was 100% supportive of what you posted.

I'm British, we've forgotten much more about sarcasm and dry humour than most nations will ever learn.


"Oooh someone deliberately misinterprets OP in an attempt to appear edgey and relevant!" This, becasue you totally missed it, was sarcasm!

Peace
🕊️
My bad…I miss sarcasm in IRL too sometimes. I guess this just strengthens the point that sarcasm doesn’t play well on a screen.

Or maybe I’m just thick as a brick.
Probably the latter.

Cheers.
 

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