It's been so long, I'd have to review the console to remember for sure. Something about the channel strips I think, and something about buses (perhaps the buses are not assignable aux or group?). Perhaps something else as well. I love the faders being color coded according to layer.
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What Live Sound System Would You Recommend?
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No issues with my SL so far and 2 other guys I know are also using the 16.4.2 hassle free. It is important that you have the board's firmware up to date and that your computer is up to the task of running VSL though. The latest updates seem very stable to me.
I'm on a win7 laptop with a 1394 port. I installed a new drive, fresh win7 and followed the Presonus guide for optimizing windows for audio. It is dedicated to VSL, Capture and Studio One though...
I'm on a win7 laptop with a 1394 port. I installed a new drive, fresh win7 and followed the Presonus guide for optimizing windows for audio. It is dedicated to VSL, Capture and Studio One though...
I didn't even know there were mixers with assignable buses. That'd be nifty. Neither of the two digital mixers I've used have assignable buses.
With that kind of cash, is your drummer willing to go with a reasonable quality Vdrum kit, or pad and trigger his acoustic kit? That would probably improve your ability to control the live sound a bunch, especially if everyone else is either going direct or using really small amps mic'd into the PA.
Other than that, I would save most of the cash for hiring out a reputable sound guy who already has the equipment and knows how to use it. Especially with what you are describing as far as equipment wise, Sound Guys will love you.
Peace,
Greg
Other than that, I would save most of the cash for hiring out a reputable sound guy who already has the equipment and knows how to use it. Especially with what you are describing as far as equipment wise, Sound Guys will love you.
Peace,
Greg
kanonfodr said:
Part of the image we want to project includes acoustic and not electronic kit . . . And while we did talk about electronic group prefers acoustic
Drummer agrees to plexiglas wall and to have his set miked . . . As you say this would help control overall sound
We have considered a sound guy who has equipment but still mulling that one over . . . One member did sound before the new electronics and is willing to take a course to upGrade his skills and knowledge . . . Still mulling that one over . . . I guess the problem is the one sound guy the members knows and trusts has no equipment and he wants a full cut like the band members . . . Most of us are not in agreement with that . . .
As long as the group is happy, that's what matters.
The problem I've seen most with having a member of the band also running the FOH is that, if an issue crops up mid-set then the show has to stop until it gets sorted out.
Our drummer is a great sound guy, really knows his stuff but we were all thankful for the sound team at a gig we played last month. The mic for our rhythm guitarist wasn't pushing enough oomph to the board so she was getting lost both in the monitors and the mix. Sound team scrambled and we were able to fill the time with a quick jam. Not to mention whatever other issues may have cropped up that we were unaware of and John fixed at the board.
Peace,
Greg
Shoulda been nailed in the soundcheck... of course if it's a "wham bam thank you mam" 3 bands in one night thing - then the sound check is usually songs 1 to 3 - if you're lucky - glad I don't have to do those anymore.
No doubt that having a dedicated soung guy is preferrable but... If the band is making money, then the PA becomes a write off against income. It is a depreciable asset after all. Nothing wrong with the band buying PA and hiring a qualified guy to run it. I'll mix for as lot cheaper than rent my PA, setup, tear down and mix ...
No doubt that having a dedicated soung guy is preferrable but... If the band is making money, then the PA becomes a write off against income. It is a depreciable asset after all. Nothing wrong with the band buying PA and hiring a qualified guy to run it. I'll mix for as lot cheaper than rent my PA, setup, tear down and mix ...
How many shows do you play in one year? If it's less than 10, then it's not worth getting something that will become obsolete soon after. I'd hire a dedicated sound man with PA and let him stress about everything.
I personally think you're probably gonna get in over your head by buying, storing, hauling, learning to use, and running all that gear. Plus if some of you in the band are retired I'm guessing you don't want to be lugging a ton of gear to every show. I'm 42 and in good shape, and I don't want to deal with that much gear before and after playing 1 set, never mind 2.
I personally think you're probably gonna get in over your head by buying, storing, hauling, learning to use, and running all that gear. Plus if some of you in the band are retired I'm guessing you don't want to be lugging a ton of gear to every show. I'm 42 and in good shape, and I don't want to deal with that much gear before and after playing 1 set, never mind 2.
Floyd Eye said:
We're in a movie theatre with ours. Marginal power, not really enough for lighting and sound at this scale.
The only problem we've had, is losing the mix mid-gig, when a lighting controller went whacky and took out a breaker.
We've been using a little APC ES550 battery backup ever since. For well under $100, I consider it a very good investment for any band with a digital board.
For tops and bottoms, look into the JBL VRX system of speakers. It's a line-array system. The company I used to work for had one of these for our smaller system, and it will throw quite a distance outside, and we would decimate some gymnasium sized rooms. It's light, the bottoms are powered and you can easily add top boxes if you need to expand. It can be flown easily from a truss or small stage, or ground stacked on poles on the subs. Three top boxes a side were all we ever needed to use it outside. Dont know the price but JBL stuff is very reliable and pretty reasonably priced considering the quality.
Here's a link to the JBL page...
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As exciting as it is to dream about what I would do with $20 K fresh (as opposed to the more than $20K I've spent in the past 30 years for my own stuff), I have to agree with Vinny on this one.
Once you find a local or regional outfit that you like, you can use them for most of your gigs. The days of a "soundman" being part of the band (I was one) and being at every gig are gone, IMO.
i would strongly agree with this PA system, i cannot count the times i have used 2 tops and 2 subs per side for many rock acts for both indoors and outdoors. the amazing thing is that each top has 100degree coverage so you can fill evenly any room. and you can change the throw distance from long mid or short.
if you want to save a little money you can look at the SRX in which is the same as VRX but no fly hardware.
whilst im an avid bass player and musician, i sell/use both PRO PA and lighting equipment as a profession.
as a good cheap full digital console, take a look at the yamaha ls9-16 or ls9-32 (depending on your channel requirements)
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/products/mixers/ls9/
