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What to do about '78 Stingray with Confederate Flag paintjob
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Remember when Prince had this bass made? He didn’t play it on stage for very long. As cool as it looked , I’m sure he eventually realized as he matured that just because it looks cool, it could still be considered offensive to others . When you know better , you do better.
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No, sanding it off and refinishing is the right answer because of the unknowable risk in the future of it ever being exposed again.
If you're a racist a-hole, leave it as it is. Otherwise refinish it completely (strip the existing finish) or burn it with fire.
Exactly!
I used to periodically get annoyed with my hair and shave my head; reset the game board, so to speak.
The last time I shaved it, I was in a band with a gay black woman.
We were joking around, and she remarked to me "If I didn't know you, I'd be scared of you".
And I haven't shaved it since - the message received outweighs the message intended.
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Someone will put your lights out if you play that in public. Be wise.
Yes, firstly because the swastika is not originally a Nazi symbol, secondly: It can be used in an educational and critical context, to teach people what Nazism was all about. Hiding a symbol or a flag, burning a book or censoring history solves nothing. What cannot be done is apology for Nazism using its symbols. Roger Waters made a criticism using Nazi symbols, it was misunderstood by uncultured people.
Furthermore, Nazi values were very narrow, unlike the "universal", or broad, values of the two sides that fought the American Civil War. It's not as simple as you think, dealing with the past without hiding it is really difficult. I think that everyone should have access to the truth, to what happened. I also think that people should be prevented from being offended unnecessarily, as is the case here. Or the inadvertent and futile use of a Nazi symbol.
I didn't talk about the unnecessary use of a controversial symbol, that should be avoided, of course. There is no reason to offend people for no reason.
Not so, that flag was square, neither rectangular not bass guitar shaped.
(You want pedantic BS, I'll give you pedantic BS.)
No kink shaming.
Keep it up. Spoken like someone from somewhere else. Seriously, quit while you're behind.
To refer to this flag as a historical icon is one thing.
I agree there’s a place for it in museums, historical galleries, exhibits, etc.
I also agree that pictures of whites posing proudly with blacks hung by the neck from trees is also history,
and should also be displayed in museums, but I wouldn’t want it painted on my bass.
On the other hand, this flag is not waved in deference to the old south nowadays.
When the capital was attacked these flags were all over the place,
waved by US citizens trying to overthrow the government
and install their party by force, so the historical argument is crap.
Even if it was to never leave my home, I'd refin it for my own peace of mind.
Besides, I'm a mod-aholic so it would be a fun project...057912
I agree there’s a place for it in museums, historical galleries, exhibits, etc.
I also agree that pictures of whites posing proudly with blacks hung by the neck from trees is also history,
and should also be displayed in museums, but I wouldn’t want it painted on my bass.
On the other hand, this flag is not waved in deference to the old south nowadays.
When the capital was attacked these flags were all over the place,
waved by US citizens trying to overthrow the government
and install their party by force, so the historical argument is crap.
Even if it was to never leave my home, I'd refin it for my own peace of mind.
Besides, I'm a mod-aholic so it would be a fun project...057912
I’d redo it as a Union Jack, or a solid colour if that’s more your thing.
I don’t think Zakk Wylde uses his Rebel anymore, and Ozzy had the good sense to set that one on fire.
There was a period of time where that imagery was more mainstream socially acceptable, but that time ended decades ago.
I don’t think Zakk Wylde uses his Rebel anymore, and Ozzy had the good sense to set that one on fire.
There was a period of time where that imagery was more mainstream socially acceptable, but that time ended decades ago.
Love all the apologists hiding behind "it's history, you shouldn't hide history, its not "the" confederate flag it's the battle flag" and all the other BS that gets spewed by them, just to make excuses. 
Another vote for refinish. I'm sure there is some fantastically nuanced "well, actually" reasoning for the flag that some professional contrarian could come up with, but people won't give you the five minutes to explain it away if they see you with the bass.
Plus, it is a gaudy shiny finish on a '78 bass. A lightly roadworn black finish would look way cooler.
Plus, it is a gaudy shiny finish on a '78 bass. A lightly roadworn black finish would look way cooler.
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Leave it...Rock it and don't worry about others. Or you can just give it to me and use it as a donation to the poor mans bassist club. lol
Really though the bass looks good. If it bugs you then sell it to someone who doesn't care, and then use money to get another you like.
Really though the bass looks good. If it bugs you then sell it to someone who doesn't care, and then use money to get another you like.
Keep as is...
Some may say it is in poor taste... this may be a collectable (if you're playing at home)
Some may say it is in poor taste... this may be a collectable (if you're playing at home)
Well this certainly reveals more than a little bit about you.
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