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What to do when your lead singer complains
- Thread starter Robin Goud
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Give him a sound beating, then replace him with someone who likes good music. And hook up with a girl he likes.
Alternatively you could discuss it like adults and see if you can accommodate each other, but what fun is that?
Alternatively you could discuss it like adults and see if you can accommodate each other, but what fun is that?
IMO, it's impossible to pick sides on this without hearing an example. Maybe your singer has a point, maybe he hasn't.
Ska typically has busy, but simple bass lines that usually stick to chord tones (root, 3rd, 5th, octave). If you play notes other than this, and factoring in the busy-ness factor, I can see how it could it get "harmonically confusing" for a singer that's new to the game. Is there a melody already written for your tunes or does he have to come up with them? If the latter, you may be asking too much of him...
Again, impossible to judge from the info we have (which isn't all that clear, to be honest).
Ska typically has busy, but simple bass lines that usually stick to chord tones (root, 3rd, 5th, octave). If you play notes other than this, and factoring in the busy-ness factor, I can see how it could it get "harmonically confusing" for a singer that's new to the game. Is there a melody already written for your tunes or does he have to come up with them? If the latter, you may be asking too much of him...
Again, impossible to judge from the info we have (which isn't all that clear, to be honest).
... I'm surprised no one has said ..
" fire the drummer".
Dude, literally the post before yours, someone said to fire the drummer. You gotta make an effort to keep up.
Seriously though, to the OP, talk it out. Maybe you’re overplaying or you’re too loud. Maybe the singer is a moron. See what everyone thinks, and try to focus on what you all agree on.
Is there an, "elephant in the room" and I'm the first brickhead to mention it???
Isn't it obvious, they need to "fire the virgin" ??? LMAO
Isn't it obvious, they need to "fire the virgin" ??? LMAO
I think you have to ask him where he's having trouble. What parts of the lines is he unable to work with? Ask him for an example of something that's too hard to sing over and ask him why and how it could be better. He might just want you to play 1-5-8 all the time. He won't know how to tell you that, so you'll need to get some examples from him.
Haha, I’m following along this thread and that is the ONLY thing I’m wondering about is that last little tidbit thrown in there and everyone else is giving serious answers and I’m all “lol,wut?”
Crafting bass lines that support a singer is not necessarily easy. I’m not saying your singer is right, but I do think you should consider the possibility.
No matter how fabulous your parts and your music are, the audience will be drawn to what the singer does - a good human voice has a primal connection that no instrument can match. If you arrange things to mesh with and support what your singer can do, you’ll be a lot more successful than if you try to force fit his abilities into what you’ve come up with.
No matter how fabulous your parts and your music are, the audience will be drawn to what the singer does - a good human voice has a primal connection that no instrument can match. If you arrange things to mesh with and support what your singer can do, you’ll be a lot more successful than if you try to force fit his abilities into what you’ve come up with.
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You gotta be us kidding, right?
The drummer is better at singing your genre than the singer is? Fire the singer, have the drummer sing. Easy.
Some bass lines are too busy.
What do I know. I keep trying to like jazz and some of that stuff is too busy everywhere!
What do I know. I keep trying to like jazz and some of that stuff is too busy everywhere!
If you find that your bass lines are similar to what other ska lines are line then I don't believe his statement has any merit.
Damn and blast, BurtMacklinFBI beat me to it. Fix him up with a girl.
Seriously though (Wait, I was serious), If the singer was good enough I'd work with him. Depends on his way of interacting. If he was sincere and cooperative, maybe some sessions with just the two of you figuring out what works best. If he's a whiner, I'd mention to him that other, needier bands, are desperate to hire a singer who has no experience at anything at all and is a highly talented complainer. Who doesn't have a girl or two.
Then I would decimate (reduce by ten percent through clubbing, beating, and/or stoning) his Barbie doll collection or rare Australian Football trading cards. Then I'd introduce him to a girl.
However, he might be the next Billy Eckstein, and you could be in store for a rewarding career if you would just do things his way. Girl.
So, forget everything else I've said, and go with the subtly implied girl idea. It will make him brash, egotistical, bossy and uncooperative; the perfect comfort zone of the insecure singer.
Good luck!
Tom
Seriously though (Wait, I was serious), If the singer was good enough I'd work with him. Depends on his way of interacting. If he was sincere and cooperative, maybe some sessions with just the two of you figuring out what works best. If he's a whiner, I'd mention to him that other, needier bands, are desperate to hire a singer who has no experience at anything at all and is a highly talented complainer. Who doesn't have a girl or two.
Then I would decimate (reduce by ten percent through clubbing, beating, and/or stoning) his Barbie doll collection or rare Australian Football trading cards. Then I'd introduce him to a girl.
However, he might be the next Billy Eckstein, and you could be in store for a rewarding career if you would just do things his way. Girl.
So, forget everything else I've said, and go with the subtly implied girl idea. It will make him brash, egotistical, bossy and uncooperative; the perfect comfort zone of the insecure singer.
Good luck!
Tom
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buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
screw the roots..this is ska...has the virgin ever even heard ska..jeez louise the bass is supposed to be moving its butt off..play him some ska for goodness sake so he realizes what hes up against or at the very least...get him some ,,,hook the brother up!!! or do i owe someone an apology?
