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What would YOU do to save Gibson?

Some people truly are amazing. :rolleyes:

You're right! You assumed since I'm not a Gibson fanboy that I must be a Fender fanboy. That truly is amazing.

And I don't think I need to *own* a Gibson to know from 5 feet away that glue seeping out of the binding and being left that way for shipment is egregiously unacceptable. I don't need to *own* a Gibson to play one and know I don't like that it weighs more than my television. And I don't need to *own* a Gibson to know I've never been partial to their sound. To each his own. If you're a fan, chip in and help save the company. I'm not stopping you. But I'm not going to be sad to walk into my local guitar shop and not see 50 tobacco burst Les Pauls hanging there (beside 20 burgundy SGs) listening to some clown butchering Sweet Child 'o Mine for 45 minutes on one. ;)
 
You're right! You assumed since I'm not a Gibson fanboy that I must be a Fender fanboy. That truly is amazing.

And I don't think I need to *own* a Gibson to know from 5 feet away that glue seeping out of the binding and being left that way for shipment is egregiously unacceptable. I don't need to *own* a Gibson to play one and know I don't like that it weighs more than my television. And I don't need to *own* a Gibson to know I've never been partial to their sound. To each his own. If you're a fan, chip in and help save the company. I'm not stopping you. But I'm not going to be sad to walk into my local guitar shop and not see 50 tobacco burst Les Pauls hanging there (beside 20 burgundy SGs) listening to some clown butchering Sweet Child 'o Mine for 45 minutes on one. ;)

If you're going to quote someone, you may as well attempt to refute their point ...
 
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If you're going to quote someone, you may as well attempt to refute their point ...

Refuting a point is only possible when one can be found, but I'll try my best!



Ahh, take notes kids. When butthurt, the best possible way to be taken seriously is to start your rant with "um".


Fender has basically made two guitars and two basses for the entire history of that company.

You're right. Is there a point?


They’re virtually unchanged from the earliest models up to the most recent.

Right again. Still, though, I fear I can't spot the point.


And all four of them bear a strong visual resemblance to each other as well.

You're hitting these factoids out of the park. Truly impressive stuff. Perhaps I'll find the point eventually.


So…where does “all look the same” become a bad thing - or at least be bad for business?

Hey, you almost made a point there! Something must be bad for business... this thread is about Gibson GOING UNDER. LoL


Not that Gibson hasn’t made several times as many far more different looking guitars and basses than Fender ever has.

Since I'm not a Fender fanboy, I'll take your word for it. I still caaaaaaan't quite see the point. I'm sorry, my eyes are really bad.


But why let reality interfere with a snappy zinger, right?

Was that the point charlie monroe? That I made a snappy zinger (thank you by the way, 40Hz, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me!) and you guys got butthurt about it? I definitely can't refute that. You got me. :(
 
This is a big part of the problem. Fender has viable bass lines (P, J, PJ, Mustang, Jaguar, Dimension, Custom Shop, Mod Shop, Squier). Gibson has SG and Thunderbird, and the Epiphone Thunderbird is 1/3rd the price of the Gibson. Seriously?

Well, I am not sure that is necessarily an issue. Guitars outsell basses by far. And the Gibson models have always been very niche, anyway. They probably don't make them any money.
 
If you're going to quote someone, you may as well attempt to refute their point ...
Ironically, I made points about Gibson's laughable quality control, and 40Hz took the opportunity not to refute my points, but to (confusingly) bash Fender.

"Gibson is awful"
"Yeah well Fender is more awful!"

That is profoundly deep, compelling stuff that would make a squid ink his undies.