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What ya think UFO’s

Do you believe?

  • Yes. It’s gotta be true

    Votes: 33 44.6%
  • No. Crazy talk.

    Votes: 24 32.4%
  • Maybe. Explain

    Votes: 17 23.0%

  • Total voters
    74
I'll add that I hope extraterrestrial life actually exists. Humans could use a serious dose of humility and ought to reevaluate their importance in the cosmos and start taking care of this fragile planet we call home. I just hope that, if aliens do exist, they are benevolent.
 
To me believing there are UFOs is easier to comprehend than there isn’t. I’m ready for solid proof. I think the people are ready for the truth at this point.
There's a third path between believing extraterrestrials exist and believing they don't, which is to withhold belief. While I think the existence of extraterrestrials is probable, I am rationally compelled to withhold belief unless/until extraordinary evidence can justify believing they do exist.
 
There are probably 3 or 4 billion cell phones with video capability being carried around in the hands of Earthlings all day, every day.

It's inconceivable that the significant number of people who report seeing alien spacecraft (and even their occupants) were actually seeing real aliens, but for whatever reason, not one of them can manage to record even 10 seconds of credible video of those aliens.
 
Unless....one deems it rational, thats up to them not anyone else...

This is one of those topics where anyone can be right, but projecting ones opinion on others and claiming it to be the only true answer just isn't right
That sounds nice; however what matters here is the objective truth, not people's opinions. The above credo allows for mutually exclusive, contradictory, beliefs regarding a singular matter of fact. Either extraterrestrials exist or they don't. An individual's opinion has no impact on the objective truth of the matter.

Such logical contradictions cannot both be true. The truth is singular. Some people may believe circles are square, or that Apollo never landed on the Moon, but that doesn't make either true or rational. If our beliefs aim at the truth then they must accord with the weight of the evidence. Due to the extraordinary nature of this particular claim, the evidential bar must be set extremely high to justify rational belief.

Perhaps one might conceive of a rational believer as a sort of impartial, objective, judge who weighs the strength of the available evidence against the extraordinary nature of the claim. Such an individual seeks the truth above all else, regardless of their personal biases, preferences, or opinions. Scientific methodology aims for something along these lines.
 
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Lots of words to say no one knows....which is the truth, but not knowing all the info that everyone has on the subject makes it hard to truly know what the truth is....circular discussion..lol,
what i'm hung up on is the definition of "rational" that words seems to leave wiggle room imo...
 
I am not a physicist, but the ideas popping up of a multidimensional universe are fascinating. Mastering the 4th dimension might allow beings to transform or alter time. Mastering the 5th 6th or higher dimensions might allow the alteration or manipulation of space. The idea of multiple universes are being taken seriously. As 3 dimensional beings, we have NO chance of visiting other planets outside of our solar system, and “aliens” have no chance of coming here. If advanced civilizations have achieved some mastery of multidimensional reality, they could be here there and everywhere, and both in past present and future. These beings could easily have been mistaken for angels, fairies, ghosts or even Gods. Science is going to blow our minds if we don’t annihilate ourselves. The real world is a whole lot wilder than our wildest imagination. We’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg.
 
Lots of words to say no one knows....which is the truth, but not knowing all the info that everyone has on the subject makes it hard to truly know what the truth is....circular discussion..lol,
what i'm hung up on is the definition of "rational" that words seems to leave wiggle room imo...
That post was intended to establish a rational framework for answering the question. Physicists seek 5-sigma confirmation before announcing new discoveries, which means that there is only a 1 in 3,500,000 probability that their result is due to random chance. In order to have that degree of certainty we're going to need a lot stronger evidence of extraterrestrials. Personal testimony, while fascinating, is simply insufficient.
 
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The fact is, a UFO is merely a figment of a science fiction writer's imagination. One that has remained in our collective imagination as well.

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It's not impossible that an older, wiser civilization might find us worth studying right now
That said, the universe is close to 13.8 billion years old so there could be lifeforms out there that could be a million years ahead of us from a technical standpoint and have the means to visit the earth. In comparison, our solar system is relatively young and is only 4.5 billion years old.

The age thing is one of the more...I like to think tragic aspects of the Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence: In addition to all the statistical probabilities that there could be intelligent life in the universe, there's the equally probable possibility that there was intelligent life but isn't any more. It's kinda sad.


"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan

Wasn't it also Sagan who said "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" ? He was a pretty smart guy. And an optimist.