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What's so special about John Entwistle?

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by FunkyYeti, Apr 1, 2020.


  1. FunkyYeti

    FunkyYeti Supporting Member

    Oct 10, 2019
    I'm not the biggest rock fan out there, but I can see why people like John Paul Jones, John Deacon, Geezer Butler and the likes.

    I can even see why people like Cliff Burton, although I think he's seriously overrated.


    But I don't understand why John Entwistle is so highly regarded here on TalkBass and in the media. I listened to The Who's top songs on Spotify and watched a few videos on YouTube. Sure, he has that sort of tapping technique and a few fills on "My Generation," but is that it? I guess he did come before Jones et al., making him a pioneer?

    I'm being serious here. I'm not trolling. What am I missing?
     
  2. jallenbass

    jallenbass Supporting Member Commercial User

    May 17, 2005
    Bend, Oregon
     
  3. Blasphemy.
     
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  4. Joe Nerve

    Joe Nerve Supporting Member

    Oct 7, 2000
    New York City
    Endorsing artist: Musicman basses
    Listen more.

    Learn a handful of Who songs.

    Post some recordings of you doing it.

    Then come back.
     
  5. FunkyYeti

    FunkyYeti Supporting Member

    Oct 10, 2019
    This is what I was looking for. Thanks.
     
  6. Gorn

    Gorn

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    Are you asking for an objective justification of his musical value? I don't like The Who. I don't like white chocolate either. But other people do. That's the nature of individuality.
     
  7. MG Wolf

    MG Wolf

    Nov 29, 2014
    Due East
    If John could respond he would ask:

    "Can you see the real me?" :cigar:

    That track alone should suffice as an answer. :bassist:
     
  8. stigbeve

    stigbeve

    Sep 24, 2014
    Not a The Who fan at all but definitely respect John Entwistle.
     
  9. LBS-bass

    LBS-bass Supporting Member

    I'm not the biggest Who fan. But dude had serious chops.
     
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  10. buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    The Real Me. Listen and wonder how.
     
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  11. FunkyYeti

    FunkyYeti Supporting Member

    Oct 10, 2019
    I suppose that's what I'm looking for.

    I don't like rock music all that much, but I try to learn songs from different genres to become a better and more rounded musician. I don't like Black Sabbath or Metallica, but I have learned "Iron Man," "N.I.B.," and "For Whom the Bell Tolls" because the bass lines were interesting.

    Entwistle is highly regarded, so I wanted to see what the fuss was all about. I listened to a few of The Who's songs on Spotify: "Baba O'Riley," "Behind Blue Eyes," and "My Generation," but I didn't exactly get it. Maybe they were the wrong songs? Maybe I'm not listening carefully enough?
     
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  12. dramatwist

    dramatwist Suspended

    Sep 27, 2019
    ...you're kidding, right? If you ever had the chance see the man live, it would have blown your mind... he could play with all 4 fingers of his right hand...a monster...
     
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  13. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member

    I always thought this was a funny thing Pete Townsend said about Entwistle:
    goto 1m55s
     
  14. bassstrangler

    bassstrangler

    Mar 2, 2015
    AZ
    It's been said before in this short thread..."The Real Me". Personally, I really don't care for much by The Who. But, I know and respect talent when I hear it, and The Who bleeds talent.
     
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  15. Low8

    Low8 Supporting Member

    Mar 30, 2014
    +1 on all the above praise. Also, it's tough to name an incredible amount of bassists who played like him... sharp, bold and out front... before he came around.

    He truly propelled rock bass forward.

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  16. Gorn

    Gorn

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    It's really not that complicated. Taste is subjective.
     
  17. Funky Ghost

    Funky Ghost Translucently Groovy

    There are a few players who have herculean finger style. Rocco, Cliff and Ox would probably be on that mount Rushmore with whomever you wanted to add. Those three were not only deft but aggressively brutal. It's one thing to play finger style ( my preferred method and Funk is my prefer vehicle :) ) and quite another to attack the strings in that manner. Geddy is up there as well. You can hear the strings bending to their wills.

    That and I love his choice of notes. He's busy but he's a superb conversationalist musically speaking.

    IMO of course.
     
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  18. RyanOh

    RyanOh Gold Supporting Member

    Won't Get Fooled Again
    Summertime Blues (Live at Leeds)
    The Real Me
    Pinball Wizard
    The Seeker
     
  19. Garagiste

    Garagiste

    Feb 16, 2013
    Brooklyn, NY
    I listen to rock music like once a quarter. But check out Live At Leeds. He’s just coming from another place. Also, when I was learning electric bass, The Seeker was a good one to work on.
     
  20. BurtMacklinFBI

    BurtMacklinFBI Rock 'n' Roll Knuckle Dragger Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2018
    This. Basically, you wouldn't have a lot of the great rock bass tracks out there without Entwistle's influence.
     

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