What's up with the Italians?

[fig]

Ok, I saw a post from oZZma asking if I was stationed at Naval Air Station Sigonella. I replied.

Loaded up some laundry, came back, and his post is gone.

I know I'm old, and maybe too many drugs as a youth, but what could've happened?

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

Federico Fellini comes to mind!

Maurizio Arrivabene comes to mind!

Yeah .. I’d also add the depression of a certain German ex-world champion, although his conditions may be a by-product of Mr. Arrivabene’s work ...

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

.... like ... a new government every year?

There is no equivalent I've ever seen of the strip tease political commentary on the tele. What's to say? It does get watched.

See? Lots of concrete examples ..

 

[GwenOnBass]

I was stationed in Sicily for 3 years while in the Navy. Lived in a villa we rented on Mt. Etna, just downslope of a small town called San Pietro Clarenza.

Sicilian driving was challenging. Sadly, some Americans didn't adapt (drive you car like a normal person) and we lost a few that way. Even lost the Executive Officer of the base. But, most of us got used to the difference.

Then, I drove through Rome for the first time. Wow! A magnitude more challenging than Sicily LOL. Only drove through Rome twice. On other trips to Italy and up into more northern Europe, we routed around Rome LOL. Which actually was the best decision to really enjoy more of Italy.


A few years later, during a 6 month deployment, we pulled into Ireland, County Cork, Cobh, for 2 weeks. Morrighan, any chance you've been to Cobh? One cool memory was late night in an out-of-the-way pub where a patron would randomly start a song and the whole pub would join in. I actually knew one, Fiddler's Green, and being beer fueled, I joined right in LOL.

To keep this bass related, one afternoon in a pub in Cork, there was a band playing songs I never heard before. They invited me to play, we decided on a few Credence Clearwater tunes (John Fogarty having Irish ancestry). I was introduced, "All the way from America...!". My claim to international fame LOL.

Sorry for the nostalgia break. I really loved, and miss, traveling around Europe and the Mediterranean Sea area.

Something like this?



This fine assembly in County Clare was not so predisposed to welcome the American with the six string thing this day <shrug>.

Genoa :: nod ::

 

[fig]

Something like this?

Oh, no. If it was a fine assembly like these folks, I wouldn't even mention I was a musician. I'd just sit back with my drink and fanboy out LOL.

The band in Cork I sat in with was a couple of guitars, bass, and drums. Like the band I'm in now LOL.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Yeah .. I’d also add the depression of a certain German ex-world champion, although his conditions may be a by-product of Mr. Arrivabene’s work ...

He's still a four-time world champion, just not one, currently.

 

[Jaymo]

I'm seriously considering replacing the stock speakers in my freebie Gibson Thor with a couple of Lavoce bass 10s.

 

[Jaymo]

Yep that was the implication. Is a shame and frustrating that a good company lets itself fall apart

Yep. Just like Blaupunkt..

 

[Hypercaffium]

Oh nice...
So I hear you needed help going to sleep. I hope the podcast helped.

I don't sleep that much to be honest. Listening to the podcast was very fun and I love Jayme's YT channel.

 

[xaosbass]

What amazes me is how similar their driver designs are to older JBL pro drivers. Hmm,.......

 

[GwenOnBass]

August means Italy is essentially closed for a month What my American colleagues refused to grasp is how unnecessary it is to work 60+ hours a week to get work done. If I attempted to work in my office in Milan later than 18:00, building security would show up at my desk to escort me out.

 

[Jaymo]

August means Italy is essentially closed for a month What my American colleagues refused to grasp is how unnecessary it is to work 60+ hours a week to get work done. If I attempted to work in my office in Milan later than 18:00, building security would show up at my desk to escort me out.

I fully grasp that, and agree.
Too bad my employer doesn't.

 

[GwenOnBass]

It's law in France that employees cannot be forced to read / reply to work email after business hours. When you go home for the day, you cease to be at work.

 

[fig]

What my American colleagues refused to grasp is how unnecessary it is to work 60+ hours a week to get work done.

I think the Italian and Sicilian secret is the concept, and frequent usage of, "Domani" (tomorrow) and "Dopo Domani" (day after tomorrow). Americans could learn from this. It's a theory I'm working on...LOL.

 

[Gianni "Orlandez" Orlati]

I think the Italian and Sicilian secret is the concept, and frequent usage of, "Domani" (tomorrow) and "Dopo Domani" (day after tomorrow). Americans could learn from this. It's a theory I'm working on...LOL.

Where I live it’s the concept of “subito” that seems to prevail ...

 

[GwenOnBass]

Domani being the same as Bermuda Time.

 

[oZZma]

August means Italy is essentially closed for a month What my American colleagues refused to grasp is how unnecessary it is to work 60+ hours a week to get work done. If I attempted to work in my office in Milan later than 18:00, building security would show up at my desk to escort me out.

In Italy we work even too much for my taste. Kudos to those countries trying to introduce 30-35 hours work weeks.
You only live once. Screw work.

 

[Jeff Scott]

When you go home for the day, you cease to be at work.

Does one's spouse have any say in this?

 

[agedhorse]

August means Italy is essentially closed for a month What my American colleagues refused to grasp is how unnecessary it is to work 60+ hours a week to get work done. If I attempted to work in my office in Milan later than 18:00, building security would show up at my desk to escort me out.

In Italy we work even too much for my taste. Kudos to those countries trying to introduce 30-35 hours work weeks.
You only live once. Screw work.

I find this a fascinating perspective, because there are plenty of folks here in the states (myself included) that thoroughly enjoy their work, and I would have assumed that this was not exclusive to us here. There are times when I am working on developing a new product that I completely lose track of time, I look up and somehow it got to be midnight!

As my engineering university adviser, an old man who worked well into his 80's, said to us in one of our classes... "find a job that you truly enjoy and you will never work a day in your life because it will be so interesting and stimulating. To this day, I find his advice to as true as ever.

 

[oZZma]

I find this a fascinating perspective, because there are plenty of folks here in the states (myself included) that thoroughly enjoy their work, and I would have assumed that this was not exclusive to us here. There are times when I am working on developing a new product that I completely lose track of time, I look up and somehow it got to be midnight!

As my engineering university adviser, an old man who worked well into his 80's, said to us in one of our classes... "find a job that you truly enjoy and you will never work a day in your life because it will be so interesting and stimulating. To this day, I find his advice to as true as ever.

IMO very few people are in the position to choose what they like nowadays... We work for survival. And even those who are lucky enough to have a job with some "satisfaction": mine does, for example, it can be fun and, as you say, stimulating (I'm a 3d modeler), but it's still not my N°1 priority in life. It's nowhere as important as playing with my band or staying with my family.
And anyways if you actually ENJOY so much your job (as much as some enjoy playing for example) you can work as much as you like, I will not come at you and say "go home". That's YOUR choice.
But a system where everyone is forced to spend most of the day working... Production may very well slow down, hours and days you burn in the office (true for most people: doing something your could not care less) will not...