The one I saw was a black tailpiece at the rickresource forum probably close to twenty years ago, there was also an 'exploding' R tailpiece which I still think is kind of funny.
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What's up with this Ric?
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The one I saw was a black tailpiece at the rickresource forum probably close to twenty years ago, there was also an 'exploding' R tailpiece which I still think is kind of funny.
I wouldn't pay 1500 bucks for that, I doubt I'd even give him a grand and I love 4001's.
This looks like a Ibanez copy with the walnut stringer down the center I could be wrong tho either way in this condition I wouldn't do more then $500 personally
Just look what people are asking for 4001’s, I’m not saying I would buy it, just saying it’s cheaper than what the normal 4001 is commanding these days, with good reason
Let's not start another fallacy about Rickenbackers, shall we? Tail lift does not cause wood to get ripped out. Period.
I got the very first Hipshot bridge so I can confirm it was in May '05.
Yeah, no wood ripping involved on tail lift. The screws under the saddles act as a fulcrum the back of the bridge bends up around, in the worst cases nearly 90 degrees, or just breaking at the thin metal either side of the saddles. There were a lot of questionable amateur bridge "experiments" in the 70's and 80's, mostly with Badass bridges, because thats what Geddy did, but that one is just a mess of inept woodworking. I wouldnt pay much for it as a restoration project. Meh. The newer 4003 are better built anyway, I dont get the 4001 lust, I owned one for a while. It had the scary thin neck, but wasnt too stable, and every one was a little different.
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The dreaded Rick “tail lift” never rips up wood. There are two different size and depth routes under the stock tailpiece and they guy simply routed it down and put in a filler to accommodate a different bridge.
The 80's badass mod gone wrong, it actually requires no additional routing, no idea why they would do that.
It traditionally required a small ring of pickguard material.
As already stated, it's not tail lift problem. And it's not a copy, it's a real Ric. Copies are way easier to pick out if you know what you're looking at.
This one is way more than what's actually required.
A patch/plug could certainly be created to fix it.
It traditionally required a small ring of pickguard material.
As already stated, it's not tail lift problem. And it's not a copy, it's a real Ric. Copies are way easier to pick out if you know what you're looking at.
This one is way more than what's actually required.
A patch/plug could certainly be created to fix it.
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The older finishes were prone to yellowing over time, some more so than others. Being in a smokey environment can often exacerbate that as well.The inlays are sure yellow for a real Ric.
Probably the most famous tail-lift photo on the inter-webz. Chances a replacement bridge was forthcoming from Ric Inc? 0.00% You can see, no tearout involved, because there are no screws where they failed, and the brief run of bridges with two extra screws didn't lift.
Most (including my 78' 4001) looked more like this. Cosmetically worrisome, but not bad enough to affect the playability. This wasn't the primary reason most people swapped the bridge anyway, it was the PITA intonation adjustment and mute assembly that didn't really work well. I actually bought a Badass II intending to do the Geddy mod, but chickened out. The BA II is still on my old fretless Frankenjazz.
Most (including my 78' 4001) looked more like this. Cosmetically worrisome, but not bad enough to affect the playability. This wasn't the primary reason most people swapped the bridge anyway, it was the PITA intonation adjustment and mute assembly that didn't really work well. I actually bought a Badass II intending to do the Geddy mod, but chickened out. The BA II is still on my old fretless Frankenjazz.
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The 90º bent tailpiece looks like an Allparts one.Probably the most famous tail-lift photo on the inter-webz. Chances a replacement bridge was forthcoming from Ric Inc? 0.00% You can see, no tearout involved, because there are no screws where they failed, and the brief run of bridges with two extra screws didn't lift.
Most (including my 78' 4001) looked more like this. Cosmetically worrisome, but not bad enough to affect the playability. This wasn't the primary reason most people swapped the bridge anyway, it was the PITA intonation adjustment and mute assembly that didn't really work well. I actually bought a Badass II intending to do the Geddy mod, but chickened out. The BA II is still on my old fretless Frankenjazz.
My old FG July '73 4001 had a moderate amount of lift but that had no effect on the tonality at all. I did comparisons between it and the MG March '73 4001 I had (with cast aluminum tailpiece). No differences that I could detect, tonally. I included my old April '98 4001V63 for further visual comparison.
BTW, the refection of the lift makes it look twice as bas as it really is, as in your second photo; not a lot of people consider that.
The older casting clearly wasn't up to the job, hence the entirely different construction and separate string anchor on the V2. Only took them 30 years to solve that one. I've had an Allparts on my Jetglo clone for 5 years, no sign of lift, 5 years and counting.... at 1/3 the price of OEM.
My 4003 came with an Allparts bridge (not that I knew it at the time), and it has a small-to-moderate amount of lift. It's been holding steady the entire time I've owned it (11 years), so presumably it's moved as much as it's going to
mine is like this, and I always thought it was by design....
Oops!
well it's been absolutely fine for the past 30-something years, so I'm not too worried.
That first pic doesn’t even look,like a Ric. Weird treble pu, knobs and binding behind the bridge.
Definitely. The bent tailpiece had me so bedazzled I didn't even look past it!
