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What's Your Stereo Rig?

#41
So why do folk want to run a stereo bass (serious question). It seems to me most of the setups here seem to be more variations on a bi-amping theme than true stereo, which I associate with having channels panned left and right, and then the image dynamically positioned or spread between the two, often with some kind of modulated FX.

If you run pickups into separate channels and eventually drivers without any kind of crossover, are you at risk of phase cancellation type effects?
 
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JimChjones said:
If you run pickups into separate channels and eventually drivers without any kind of crossover, are you at risk of phase cancellation type effects?
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Yep, and ground loops can cause some major headaches also (also for true stereo L/R setup)
Though I think phase cancellation will be less of a problem in the separate pickups output setup, you'll need two (almost) identical signals going into out of phase amps to hear the negative effect.
The pickups of my Alembic were out of phase which resulted in a very thin sound when played through a single amp, with two amps the sound was fine.
I can do some experimenting when I have that bass up and running again (currently undergoing upgrade to Series II electronics) Should be easy with my combo setup, all I need to do is reverse the speakerleads on one combo.

I don't really know what the exact definition of stereo is, but agree it seems the wrong term for separate pickup outputs (though Rickenbacker and Alembic both call it that way) Maybe biamping is a better term, I try to always use "" when calling it stereo. ("stereo" )

Now if I combine the SWR's with the Mesa rig, I can have the "stereo" signal path + true stereo effects. :bassist: (which will be awesome, but will also definitely p**s off my bandmates and the foh people) :D
 
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JimChjones said:
So why do folk want to run a stereo bass (serious question). It seems to me most of the setups here seem to be more variations on a bi-amping theme than true stereo, which I associate with having channels panned left and right, and then the image dynamically positioned or spread between the two, often with some kind of modulated FX.

If you run pickups into separate channels and eventually drivers without any kind of crossover, are you at risk of phase cancellation type effects?
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See my post on page one.... not really stereo per say. I don’t want L&R channels...I want control of each PU tone.
 
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I only have one stereo-output equipped bass, (ironically, none of my Alembics do) a lowly Gibson-era Tobias. I've often thought about what it would take to get the benefit from that option with my current bi-amp setup. I'm guessing either an F-2B, or a second F-1X would get me there... just a separate input for each channel of the amp. Right?
 

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Will_White said:
Have any of you tried using a guitar amp and/or cab for the highs?
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Have used a 4x12 stacked atop my folded Horn

Heard the 4-12. Felt the Horn

A lot of rig for a country covers band. I only used it at ages outdoors gigs

Same with my stereo rig

I was a progger with a Ric in a country covers band I had to do it !
 
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Not separate outputs for each pickup but biamped. Bottom to a 15" folded horn, highs to a 4x10" . Cabs left n' right onstage.
Recording is best with low end roughly centered and highs biased to one side.
Will_White said:
Have any of you tried using a guitar amp and/or cab for the highs?
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I biamp, and the highs go to a 4x10" open back guitar cab with 4 Weber alnico guitar speakers. With the lows going to a Jack 15 lite, the sound is full and rich. Very pleasing, even at low volumes.
If I use all 1500 Watts I have to get away from it.
If you biamp, I think good guitar speakers are a big plus.
Though I built a 15" folded horn with a ribbon tweeter that sounds amazing, but I can't run 1500 Watts into that.
 
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Jeff Scott said:
You really need to get on the horn ASAP with Mica and rectify that situation...................... ;)
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I would, but I'm saving up for a neck replacement. Unfortunately, mine. :(

Craziest thing... I've got a vintage Series I sitting in a savings account, but it's all going to a neurosurgeon this-coming Fall. :facepalm: Priorities man...

Hopefully by Spring 2019 I'll be able to play my non-stereo basses through the bi-amped rig again. (it's almost as much fun) :rolleyes:
 
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tubedude said:
Not separate outputs for each pickup but biamped. Bottom to a 15" folded horn, highs to a 4x10" . Cabs left n' right onstage.
Recording is best with low end roughly centered and highs biased to one side.


I biamp, and the highs go to a 4x10" open back guitar cab with 4 Weber alnico guitar speakers. With the lows going to a Jack 15 lite, the sound is full and rich. Very pleasing, even at low volumes.
If I use all 1500 Watts I have to get away from it.
If you biamp, I think good guitar speakers are a big plus.
Though I built a 15" folded horn with a ribbon tweeter that sounds amazing, but I can't run 1500 Watts into that.
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What amps are you using and what kind of effects are you running on the Highs?
That's more or less the setup I've been thinking of, (1) 18" ported sub and (2) 10 - 12" open back/ convertible guitar speakers per cab.
 
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tubedude said:
Not separate outputs for each pickup but biamped. Bottom to a 15" folded horn, highs to a 4x10" . Cabs left n' right onstage.
Recording is best with low end roughly centered and highs biased to one side.


I biamp, and the highs go to a 4x10" open back guitar cab with 4 Weber alnico guitar speakers. With the lows going to a Jack 15 lite, the sound is full and rich. Very pleasing, even at low volumes.
If I use all 1500 Watts I have to get away from it.
If you biamp, I think good guitar speakers are a big plus.
Though I built a 15" folded horn with a ribbon tweeter that sounds amazing, but I can't run 1500 Watts into that.
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What brand folded Horn?
 
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jdubbass38 said:
In this picture I’m going into my tuner, then into my synth pedal. I’m sending unaffected out to amp 1 and affected to my Ampeg di and into amp 2 achieving two different amp settings. I can also run ric-o-sound using the Ricky into both amps.
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To your point...I guess this isn’t “true” stereo by definition as others have stated.
 

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