Which Colors Correspond With Which Notes???

[Markamb1]

Clavier à lumières - Wikipedia

There is a wealth of info online on this. His contemporaries must have thought he was an interesting chap!

I’ve seen that already. Thank you though. I don’t like the random colour choice it doesn’t progress like the spectrum of light.... I think that once the right starting point is chosen it should move from Red through the ROY G. BIV PROGRESSION OF THE RAINBOW to Violet and and a lighter shade of the same previous colour even as you go higher per octave.

light and dark colour for all except B and E

 

[blastoff99]

I’ve seen that already. Thank you though. I don’t like the random colour choice it doesn’t progress like the spectrum of light.... I think that once the right starting point is chosen it should move from Red through the ROY G. BIV PROGRESSION OF THE RAINBOW to Violet and and a lighter shade of the same previous colour even as you go higher per octave.

light and dark colour for all except B and E

I wouldn't say it's random. It wasn't random to him. Some people see tones (or key centers) as having specific colors. The 'why' of that may be impossible to explain, but I'm quite confident he didn't just pick colors because he liked them.

 

[Markamb1]

Possibly not but I’m more likely to go with a theory that correlates with something as perfectly untainted by the human mind such as the natural spectrum of light itself.

 

[Markamb1]

The notes on the fretboard are in Hertz, not TeraHertz, which is why it would be difficult to correlate them.

So how would or could you correlate them as you understand the material here?

You might like this thread: Bass frequency/waterfall plots: what they mean to rigs

Unfortunately some of the graphs went away during the 2014 software change here. But there's still plenty of food for thought there.

Same question ....based on that program plot it has decided some things already so how does that correlate sound and light with notes and colors

 

[Killed_by_Death]

7 notes
7 primary colors
coincidence?

 

[Markamb1]

Not at all and I believe they should progress the same as well but which colour do you start with? Which colour lines up with say E

 

[blastoff99]

Possibly not but I’m more likely to go with a theory that correlates with something as perfectly untainted by the human mind such as the natural spectrum of light itself.

Well of course - you can do what you like, as it's your project. I was just giving you a heads-up about somebody who blazed this trail awhile ago. Thought maybe you'd find something interesting there.

 

[Markamb1]

7 notes
7 primary colors
coincidence?

Definitely not. Where to start though? What colour should E be?

Well of course - you can do what you like, as it's your project. I was just giving you a heads-up about somebody who blazed this trail awhile ago. Thought maybe you'd find something interesting there.

Definitely and thank you. Does this count as notation? Or does it really just fall under miscellaneous?

 

[blastoff99]

I think that Miscellaneous sounds perfect. Musically speaking, 'What color is the key of Db?' is about as 'miscellaneous' of a question as you can get!






Answer: purple! No, I'm not going to fight anybody.

 

[Luigir]

Not at all and I believe they should progress the same as well but which colour do you start with? Which colour lines up with say E

it's not a coincidence it's by definition. Wikipedia explains it clearly:
Rainbow - Wikipedia

Newton, who admitted his eyes were not very critical in distinguishing colours,[8] originally (1672) divided the spectrum into five main colours: red, yellow, green, blue and violet. Later he included orange and indigo, giving seven main colours by analogy to the number of notes in a musical scale.[2][9] Newton chose to divide the visible spectrum into seven colours out of a belief derived from the beliefs of the ancient Greek sophists, who thought there was a connection between the colours, the musical notes, the known objects in the Solar System, and the days of the week.

If I were in you I'd rather start studying color perception or sound perception separately and avoid looking for pseudo-theories of everything. They surely share some similarities but are quite different.

 

[Markamb1]

I think that Miscellaneous sounds perfect. Musically speaking, 'What color is the key of Db?' is about as 'miscellaneous' of a question as you can get!






Answer: purple! No, I'm not going to fight anybody.

Lol I think we would need to work of the naturals. Then shade the sharps or flats

And I don’t know it is about notes

 

[Markamb1]

Not looking for a theory of everything....just sound and light

I’ll just stick to notes and colours for the purpose of giving another visual cue for easier pattern recognition and a deeper experience of sense. I’ll look at what you posted and thank you. Any thoughts on how one WOULD do this? Might be more constructive.

 

[blastoff99]

Lol I think we would need to work of the naturals. Then shade the sharps or flats

And I don’t know it is about notes

No, not really. It's circle-of-fifths based, not chromatic based. Colors are not so much about the individual notes (in Scriabin's way of hearing them) as about key centers or tonal centers. (So yeah, this is a bit different when you're playing an instrument that (often) plays one note at a time, rather than four or so.) I can't tell you that every G in any octave anywhere in any key is the same color, because it isn't. But the key of G major is always orange. And a modulation to G major within a different key is always orange.

Notes and notation are not the same thing. Misc is a fine place.

 

[Markamb1]

No, not really. It's circle-of-fifths based, not chromatic based. Colors are not so much about the individual notes (in Scriabin's way of hearing them) as about key centers or tonal centers. (So yeah, this is a bit different when you're playing an instrument that (often) plays one note at a time, rather than four or so.) I can't tell you that every G in any octave anywhere in any key is the same color, because it isn't. But the key of G major is always orange. And a modulation to G major within a different key is always orange.

Notes and notation are not the same thing. Misc is a fine place.

Indeed....

That’s a good thought too.... I’ll look more into it but for what I’m looking for and why I think that this way would be more straight forward. I like that explanation though.

 

[Markamb1]

So far it seems like E should be violet and F should Start the spectrum at Red.

 

[Passinwind]

Same question ....based on that program plot it has decided some things already so how does that correlate sound and light with notes and colors

That's up to the user, I just wanted you to get a feel for the harmonic complexity of a plucked low F note, for example. The plots I contributed used very old software and I think the colors were most likely chosen pretty arbitrarily. Unfortunately I no longer have a convenient way to look into that though.

FWIW, since I am primarily a fretless player, limiting things to the 12 tone equal temperament system rubs me the wrong way right off the bat. Reducing that to just 7 pitches, even more so. And then there's the issue of what pitch standard we tune to. If A does not equal 440Hz, is it still green, teal, aquamarine? But one has to start somewhere...

 

[Wasnex]

Please move this to wherever it should go. Should this be in notation?

If you don’t care, don’t post. If you don’t think it matters, you’re right! Read and comment and something else. Lol thanks

Any other input is appreciated

But........

I’ve been dying to associate the right Colour with the right Notes. I want to take one guitar and one bass.... sticker each fret with the notes and colour of the note....

Every source I’ve researched has a different opinion...

spectrum of light waves do roughly correspond with the frequencies of sound waves ....

I’m hoping some of you have thought about this as well or are interested enough to do some searching...

I think you could also shade those colours up and down per octave.

I’d like enough reasoning to definitively decide on the right colours for the right notes.

There’s info all over the world....I found technical information associated with numbers and spirtual information associated with the senses.

What do you think?

I’d like to do this with a higher end fretlight guitar. Lights in the fretboard light up to show chords but more importantly all the relevant notes in any scale you can think of. Would be an amazing upgrade for the fretlight concept to have the notes coloured.

I think the premise is interesting, but perhaps flawed. Why...chromesthesia is a form of synesthesia in which people actually see a color when they hear a pitch. The problem is different people with chromesthesia don't agree on the color, pitch associations. IMHO, this suggest there is no natural basis to support an association between musical pitch and color...YMMV.

See Chromesthesia on this wiki link Synesthesia - Wikipedia "Individuals rarely agree on what color a given sound is. B flat might be orange for one person and blue for another. Composers Franz Lizt and Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov famously disagreed on the colors of music keys."

 

[Luigir]

Not looking for a theory of everything....just sound and light

I’ll just stick to notes and colours for the purpose of giving another visual cue for easier pattern recognition and a deeper experience of sense. I’ll look at what you posted and thank you. Any thoughts on how one WOULD do this? Might be more constructive.

I don't think that there is a right way of doing this other than adopting or defining a conventional and arbitrary link between the two, i.e. choose the code that you like or one that is largely used.

Furthermore, I really don't see the need of adding another different codes to notes.It has been used for kids but I'm not sure if it actually helps.

 

[Markamb1]

That's up to the user, I just wanted you to get a feel for the harmonic complexity of a plucked low F note, for example. The plots I contributed used very old software and I think the colors were most likely chosen pretty arbitrarily. Unfortunately I no longer have a convenient way to look into that though.

FWIW, since I am primarily a fretless player, limiting things to the 12 tone equal temperament system rubs me the wrong way right off the bat. Reducing that to just 7 pitches, even more so. And then there's the issue of what pitch standard we tune to. If A does not equal 440Hz, is it still green, teal, aquamarine? But one has to start somewhere...View attachment 3264816

If you had one fretted bass....with one low e string and only 12 frets.....could you give me a suggestion then? Assuming we tune A to 440hz? PLEASE! Lolololol.... I know you know something! You know something about everything else you must be hiding something lolol

 

[blastoff99]

If you had one fretted bass....with one low e string and only 12 frets.....could you give me a suggestion then? Assuming we tune A to 440hz? PLEASE! Lolololol.... I know you know something! You know something about everything else you must be hiding something lolol

Why? You do you. There's no absolute here, just things that make more sense than others, within a given system, assuming any of it makes sense at all. Scriabin and Rimsky-Korsakoff were both synethetes, and their tone color wheels are very different. You gonna tell R-K he's wrong? I'm not, and I see Scriabin's wheel almost perfectly. Almost.

Maybe you start by figuring out what system makes sense to you, and going from there.