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Which FENDER P to buy?

Which one would you buy

  • Player II

    Votes: 22 11.1%
  • Vintera III

    Votes: 6 3.0%
  • Vintera II Nitro

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • American Pro II

    Votes: 56 28.3%
  • American Pro Classic

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • American Vintage II

    Votes: 23 11.6%
  • Standard

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Custom Shop -used

    Votes: 57 28.8%

  • Total voters
    198
From your intro, you don't care about play-ability, sound, value, or anything musical. In that case just let some non-musician pick whichever one looks good with whatever outfit you wear most often, or if you have a bad back or something just pick the lightest one. Everything you've listed is 99% the same with the exception of production variances and color options.
 
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From your intro, you don't care about play-ability, sound, value, or anything musical. In that case just let some non-musician pick whichever one looks good with whatever outfit you wear most often, or if you have a bad back or something just pick the lightest one. Everything you've listed is 99% the same with the exception of production variances and color options.

Exactly. I think this is one of the many posts just like this that seem to occur constantly on talk bass these days. "I want your opinions, but I don't give a crap about your opinions." I'm sure I'm going to regret accidentally subscribing to this post by making this comment
 
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From your intro, you don't care about play-ability, sound, value, or anything musical. In that case just let some non-musician pick whichever one looks good with whatever outfit you wear most often, or if you have a bad back or something just pick the lightest one. Everything you've listed is 99% the same with the exception of production variances and color options.
Way to mischaracterize the OP.
 
A used MIJ or Custom Shop would be my choice. But that already shows that, in principle, it doesn't really matter as long as the basic quality is good. Just get the one you like best. The differences are there, but marginal. You can hardly hear any difference in a band mix. At least not significant enough to justify these huge price differences. Fender is great at marketing. If you can avoid that, life is easier. You can endlessly debate tiny differences in pickups or bridges, or which wood is better. Ultimately, though, you could spend that time playing.
 
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From your intro, you don't care about play-ability, sound, value, or anything musical. In that case just let some non-musician pick whichever one looks good with whatever outfit you wear most often, or if you have a bad back or something just pick the lightest one. Everything you've listed is 99% the same with the exception of production variances and color options.
I missed that completely
 
From your intro, you don't care about play-ability, sound, value, or anything musical. In that case just let some non-musician pick whichever one looks good with whatever outfit you wear most often, or if you have a bad back or something just pick the lightest one. Everything you've listed is 99% the same with the exception of production variances and color options.

I missed that completely


I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, it is ridiculous and really not worthy of a response, but alas, here we are. Reading is fundamental, comprehension is lost on most.
 
In case I'm missing something,
I don’t care what you think about Fender or their pricing. I don’t want to hear about other brands, they are irrelevant for this poll. I want a Fender that I will leave 100% original, all the ones I have now have something that has been changed.
First sentence, value.
Ssecond sentence, semantically relevant for the poll, also describes a disinterest in any superior attributes of similar instruments.
Last sentence, no indication of preference for neck profile, pickup, or anything else related to actually playing it. Leaving it stock is fine but given the above there is no indication that OP wants to actually play the thing.
It is totally fine that there is a huge p bass cult here at talkbass, but this just reads like a circle jerk. I'll do my best to avoid your meetings in the future.
 
In case I'm missing something,

First sentence, value.
Ssecond sentence, semantically relevant for the poll, also describes a disinterest in any superior attributes of similar instruments.
Last sentence, no indication of preference for neck profile, pickup, or anything else related to actually playing it. Leaving it stock is fine but given the above there is no indication that OP wants to actually play the thing.
It is totally fine that there is a huge p bass cult here at talkbass, but this just reads like a circle jerk. I'll do my best to avoid your meetings in the future.
I see , I think maybe because alot of people recommend cheap pbass copies because theyre better at half price or less etc, or others recommend expensive pbass copies when others ask opinions on fenders because theyre made by magic painters or or hand carved by virgins, thats all possibly just wanted to avoid all of that, thats what I got from the post
 
Frankly, I am a little shocked over the lack of love for the Vinteras, ......... I have a Vintera neck on one of my jazz basses and it is one of the best necks I own.
Ha - I stopped short of mentioning the Vintera because I haven't played one..
BUT - I just assembled a Jazz Bass with a Vintera roasted maple P neck!! (I thought I was the only one...)
Agreed on the neck - nice vintage spec - plays great - I love it! and the bass turned out fantastic.


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I see , I think maybe because alot of people recommend cheap pbass copies because theyre better at half price or less etc, or others recommend expensive pbass copies when others ask opinions on fenders because theyre made by magic painters or or hand carved by virgins, thats all possibly just wanted to avoid all of that, thats what I got from the post
Fair, and I admittedly responded in a cranky way. The crux of my concern is that a P bass can be had with a thick 1 3/4 neck or a slim 42mm, with heavy or light tuners. The neck feel is 75% of what makes P basses different. The part about being bone stock makes me think it’s just wall art or something because the REAL challenge with finding the right p bass is to get the combination of finish, NECK, and parts that work for a player. Some folk like a HIMass bridge, or prefer bend plate. Bridge saddles of threads? Is there a particulat EQ profile wanted from the pickup? These are many of the relevant differentiators, but OP has not indicated preferences about this in the poll. Instead this just seems like an invitation for the P bass fan club to opine.
Most importantly of all, for a poll that’s hard to take seriously…. No Carrots. Everyone here knows a poll like this needs Carrots.
 
Frankly, I am a little shocked over the lack of love for the Vinteras, I think these are probably the best value Fender has going right now. I have a Vintera neck on one of my jazz basses and it is one of the best necks I own. I wonder if this is due to people not being able to try them out first hand?
I voted vintera 2 rw I guess they’re like 1500 new , if you can score a used cs for 2-3k it’s tough I’m not sure which tort pgs I like less between the 2 the caveat about keeping it factory makes it really tough
 
Player series is pretty much built to be upgraded. However, there’s a choice. Many people leave them stock and are happy.

For me, it’s the Pro II, or ultra, that I would buy and never upgrade