Which modes should I use in the different chords?

[r10]

My turn to say something obscure...

F/E is an inversion of Fmaj7, with E as the tonic, as everyone has pointed out. The associated mode has to be E Locrian. Not Phrygian.

But if you get out a guitar and do the fingering for F/E, you'll see all the played notes are also found in E Phrygian. F/E just happens to only use notes common to both E Locrian and E Phrygian.

So if you used E Phrygian over F/E it would sound fine, but it would imply a key change from F to C, which might not be cool with any bandmates who are playing an F Ionian scale run. On the other hand, if you're playing jazz, everyone will think you're awesome.

Hi Gary,

I think they use common notes in the chord but not in the scale. Locrian and Phrygian might sound similar because of the b2, but they will be different in the 5th
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new to this and don't have my bass here with me to check

Cheers

 

[GaryCorby]

Hi Gary,

I think they use common notes in the chord but not in the scale. Locrian and Phrygian might sound similar because of the b2, but they will be different in the 5th
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new to this and don't have my bass here with me to check

Cheers

Hi r10,

You're right, E Locrian belongs to the F major scale. E Phrygian belongs to the C major scale. Locrian and Phrygian sound different.

But the point is that without any other context, F/E could be appearing as the I chord in the key of F major, or the IV chord in key of C major. Hence either E Locrian or E Phrygian would do the job, but if you chose E Phrygian the listener would hear a key change. So I think we're agreeing with each other.

Gary

 

[r10]

Hi r10,

You're right, E Locrian belongs to the F major scale. E Phrygian belongs to the C major scale. Locrian and Phrygian sound different.

But the point is that without any other context, F/E could be appearing as the I chord in the key of F major, or the IV chord in key of C major. Hence either E Locrian or E Phrygian would do the job, but if you chose E Phrygian the listener would hear a key change. So I think we're agreeing with each other.

Gary

Right, I completely agree, without any other context or with a backing track playing only an F/E chord you can jam with any of the two modes.

 

[Whousedtoplay]

...what scales to use in the different chords, to make it easy to understand I'll ask in C major.

A few days ago, I posted my humorous attempt to play some lame "soloing" over two chord progression: Gmaj7 | Ab13 | by using
ONLY the notes from C major scale.

 

[Spin Doctor]

A few days ago, I posted my humorous attempt to play some lame "soloing" over two chord progression: Gmaj7 | Ab13 | by using
ONLY the notes from C major scale.
This morning, I decided to add some stubbornly "punk"-ish and thumb-like monotonous bass-line to emphasize the root notes of that Gmaj7|Ab13 progression in addition to my "a la rhythm guitar" parts that I've played on my Jazz Bass.

(Only as comic relief; nothing to do with serious music.)

P.S. As always, I will remove my posting shortly.

I think this is pretty cool... Some interesting harmonies going on there that I really dig.
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[SteveCS]

I think this is pretty cool... Some interesting harmonies going on there that I really dig.

likewise - The harmonies and elements of the bass tone/processing are reminiscent of Mick Karn and Pete Murphy as 'Dali's Car' - anyone remember that?