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Who else here uses 12s and 15's?

#101
silky smoove said:
Certainly.

The better (IMO) way to state it would be: Regardless of driver size, different drivers will sound different in the same enclosure much like identical drivers will sound different in different enclosures.
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I chose brevity. Besides, mine was a question, not a statement.
;)

Whether the emphasis is put on the driver or the enclosure makes no difference to me. I simply take exception to the thought process that goes "Driver diameter 'X' yields tone 'Y'."
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So do I. I also take exception to the thought procees that any driver will yield tone "Y". In the real world. Doing it on paper's easy.
 
#102
Tone is 100% dependent on frequency response. See the plots from the VT bass scoping for more info on how even and odd order harmonics influence "tone." Sometimes a driver has a really interesting FR based on distortion characteristics, but that's still frequency response.
 
#111
Sartori said:
Here is the 15" speaker cabinet I use (except mine was before they started putting wheels on them, which is kinda lame).

And here is a 4x10 from the same manufacturer that, according to specs, goes lower than it.

But that's not all. Another 4x10 that goes lower than my 1x15 cabinet, according to specs.

If 10" speakers can do it, why wouldn't 12" ones be able to do so?
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The last time i checked 28 hz is not lower than 33hz...but you are also talking about 4 speakers...and you shouldnt believe everything you hear.or everything your told ....again in my opinion a 12 inch speaker can not be compared to a 15 inch speaker..thats my opinion call it what you want...
 
#114
sirmike75 said:
The last time i checked 28 hz is not lower than 33hz...
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the last time i checked, 28 hz is 5 hz lower than 33 hz.

but you are also talking about 4 speakers...and you shouldnt believe everything you hear.or everything your told ....again in my opinion a 12 inch speaker can not be compared to a 15 inch speaker..thats my opinion call it what you want...
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what are your qualifications for that opinion? i learned real quick on here that there are some heavy duty people in the mi and pro audio industry on here who ARE qualified. i'm not one of them, but i remember what they say. i think you are misinterpreting the "size doesn't matter" thing.

what it means is that you can design a speaker to have any characteristics you want at any size you want. for example, the eminence 3012ho will go lower than an eminence delta 15a because it's designed to go lower. it's entirely possible to design a 10" or 8" that will go lower too (as well as a higher 15"), but since there are unwanted sonic tradeoffs and it's too expensive to make it worth it, most manufacturers build speakers using bigger cones for lows and smaller for highs because it's more practical. doesn't mean they can't do it, though, and with neo magnets, we're seeing more speakers that are defying the traditional roles of speakers of a given size because it's getting cheaper to do it.

and that makes it impossible to tell any characteristics of a given speaker by size alone anymore, except for beaming, which is apparently pretty constant with size. but that's the only thing you can tell about a speaker by its size.
 

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