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Who is moving music forward today?

#81
Mayers said:
...they are more of a visual thing like Micheal Jackson and Elvis Presley.
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You, sir, are out of order. :rollno: Elvis popularized rock and roll...and even gospel...to the teen pop masses and influenced...well, too many to list. MJ? Do we even need to go there?

And Bowie, not pushing the envelope? He pushed it/moved it forward in every way. Musically, visually, sonically, experimentally. Without him, there might have been no NIN as we know it, no Gary Numan as you know it, no post-punk or art-rock as we know them, no gender-bending, all that.

Let's be a bit more clear: be careful not to exclude things or over emphasize things that you don't like/like here. We're having a deeper discussion here.
 
#82
Anybody catch the new James Blake? Amazing take on really tasteful, minimal production. A record of great value, i think. Not sure it's pushing the songwriting angle but definitely strong melodies, and the arrangement choices and concepts are insane. INSANE.
 
#85
The people who moved music forward to me are those who balance technical prowess with "feel" (for lack of a better term). This certainly isn't always the case, but usually the case for me.

I love Steve Via. He is a man that does this. It isn't always some boring shred fest with him. I remember trying to figure out "How did he do that busy signal?!?!?" when I heard it back in the 80's.

I don't think people realize this, but Billy Sheehan was like this as well at least for me. He certainly can fly, but he can certainly hold down a groove.

Players like this are special.
 
#87
jmjbassplayer said:
You, sir, are out of order. :rollno: Elvis popularized rock and roll...and even gospel...to the teen pop masses and influenced...well, too many to list. MJ? Do we even need to go there?

And Bowie, not pushing the envelope? He pushed it/moved it forward in every way. Musically, visually, sonically, experimentally. Without him, there might have been no NIN as we know it, no Gary Numan as you know it, no post-punk or art-rock as we know them, no gender-bending, all that.

Let's be a bit more clear: be careful not to exclude things or over emphasize things that you don't like/like here. We're having a deeper discussion here.
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well said justin (i'm a little disappointed i missed the full-on vitriolic version;))

just wanted to add that my list is in no way meant to be exhaustive, just wanted to point out how insane it is (even though i probably didn't have to) to suggest that music hasn't been moved forward since schoenberg's death.

here's another thing to discuss: every time a new band is formed, or a new song is written or a new album is released, it becomes THAT much harder to do something original. like, imagine all the music that has been made since 1950, or even 2000? every day it becomes harder to do something new. maybe that just makes it all the more special when somebody can do it consistently...
 
#88
Melik said:
Theres a lot of stuff going on in neo soul scene today. So artists like Raphael Saadiq and Erykah Badu are moving things forward
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a lot of my favorite new music these days is coming out of the neo-soul camp...i think it might be because they are really really open to so many different influences. people like j dilla (rip), d'angelo, mayer hawthorne q-tip, jill scott, and lauryn hill. jazz, blues, indie, hip-hop. really cool stuff.
 
#89
I would definitely like to pipe in and mention Between the Buried and Me. I know it won't be most people's cup of tea, but with the new album they have moved metal forward in such a novel way. In that, I mean they are actually making metal...Gasp!... musical! They didn't used to be that way, but they've certainly kicked it up a notch on the last two albums.

Many will probably still disagree because of the vocals, but if you can get past that and listen to the music they're making, it's pretty undeniable.
 
#94
jmjbassplayer said:
You, sir, are out of order. :rollno: Elvis popularized rock and roll...and even gospel...to the teen pop masses and influenced...well, too many to list. MJ? Do we even need to go there?

And Bowie, not pushing the envelope? He pushed it/moved it forward in every way. Musically, visually, sonically, experimentally. Without him, there might have been no NIN as we know it, no Gary Numan as you know it, no post-punk or art-rock as we know them, no gender-bending, all that.

Let's be a bit more clear: be careful not to exclude things or over emphasize things that you don't like/like here. We're having a deeper discussion here.
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Sorry but Elvis just popularized something, he didn't do anything new, he was just copying the music black people were doing at the time. MJ didn't do anything musicaly, it is only a visual thing. How gender-bending has anything to do with music ???

If you're looking for something new you have to go outside of pop, rock and punk music. Look at Micheal Manring, that man pushes the enveloppe for real. No one does what he does.

I don't know if you understand my point.
 
#95
Really into Muse. Definitely moving the music. Others I've grown fond of are

Fitz and the Tantrums
Raphael Saadiq (phenomenal live)
Young The Giant
Ben Kenney
Jimmy Eat World
Mika
The National
Wilco (Although I'm not a huge fan)

But I mean, even bands of the yesteryears are moving forward! RHCP, R.E.M., and even The Cars have reunited for a new album due out in May! And I consider that moving forward because The Cars haven't changed their sound since the 80's. They're doing what made them great.
 
#98
gregoryisrael said:
Under all the noisiness and avant-garde-ness of Deerhoof's sound are some amazingly well-structured compositions. You don't gt that from many bands that fall into their sonic category. The chord changes and melody are so unlike any other noise-rock or even rock period.
Interesting tidbit: When I saw them live a few years back, I bought a book of the entire Offend Maggie album, transcribed by their drummer into piano/vocal music... handwritten.

Has anybody mentioned Yeasayer?
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+1 on Deerhoof and +1000 on Yeasayer. They are even better live.
 
#100
Mayers said:
Sorry but Elvis just popularized something, he didn't do anything new, he was just copying the music black people were doing at the time. MJ didn't do anything musicaly, it is only a visual thing. How gender-bending has anything to do with music ???

If you're looking for something new you have to go outside of pop, rock and punk music. Look at Micheal Manring, that man pushes the enveloppe for real. No one does what he does.

I don't know if you understand my point.
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I clearly don't understand your point at all. Please clarify how MJ and Elvis and Bowie did nothing but a visual thing for music...

Are you familiar with these artists or just dislike them?

For instance, I can't stand most later John Cage, but there is no disputing what it meant to music. People may think Schooly D was lame but he certainly lead hip hop to a new level even if it was short lived. But MJ, Bowie, Elvis? They didn't just popularize what was already happening at the time.
 

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