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Why are people obsessed with weight??

#601
Brad Johnson said:
How did it work out? Are you talking about durability with a non-protective finish?

I stay away from that (multiple wood core bodies) because it throws an even bigger element of unknowedness(;)) into the equation. I know people who'll say go for a tone block for the general sound, get different wings to alter "that" sound to whatever degree, get a top wood to alter "that" sound again to an unknown degree... and hope for the best. It's extremely rare (if ever) I grab a Swamp Ash bass and it makes me hear Northern Ash. But go with multiple woods and I really have no idea what to expect. If weight is the reason I'd go for chambering first. As a line item in a tone recipe, multi wood bodies aren't on my radar.
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It was supposedly with non-protective finishes, but I don't think Cliff uses a lot of thick finishes.

Sonically, it worked out as planned. I usually don't get too crazy with multi-lam bodies, but thought the acrylized fingerboard would be a bit too bright without any other adjustments.
 
#602
your right we are weak but we were once strong some of us had horrific accidents and continued to play in spite of pain,you are in a position where you should be thankful because after an injury or illness it takes a lot of drive to play so why bring on back spasms when it can be avoided,I would like to hear from you in 20 years after you have'nt played in years and us light weights are still rockin
 
#603
You know what, I think we're all sissies. B.B. King might not be a bass player, but he's gigging more than most of us and he's, what... 90?

Most people at his age can't even feed themselves, let alone play 200ish gigs a year. Now that's vitality. :hyper: Even if he does play sitting down now.

I'd use this analogy with an old bass player but my knowledge is kinda pathetic, so I had to use the big name that everyone knows.:atoz:
 
#604
spade2you said:
It was supposedly with non-protective finishes, but I don't think Cliff uses a lot of thick finishes.

Sonically, it worked out as planned. I usually don't get too crazy with multi-lam bodies, but thought the acrylized fingerboard would be a bit too bright without any other adjustments.
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You can get a very protective finish with a matte or satin texture. Kevin does that quite often. His gloss finishes only seem thick, considering the visual depth perception.

Glad it worked out.
 
#605
Brad Johnson said:
You can get a very protective finish with a matte or satin texture. Kevin does that quite often. His gloss finishes only seem thick, considering the visual depth perception.

Glad it worked out.
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Perhaps I might investigate that. I was looking at attempting a bass with 2 different body woods for the bass and treb side. I've heard good things about Spanish cedar tonally, but it can dent by looking at it. :D My Rob Allen uses ash/alder, so I could always try that combo again instead.

The bass turned out great. No real gripes, other than 26 frets gets in the way for the little slap I do.

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#609
spade2you said:
Perhaps I might investigate that. I was looking at attempting a bass with 2 different body woods for the bass and treb side. I've heard good things about Spanish cedar tonally, but it can dent by looking at it. :D My Rob Allen uses ash/alder, so I could always try that combo again instead.

The bass turned out great. No real gripes, other than 26 frets gets in the way for the little slap I do.

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I can honestly say I've seen no wear issues with any of the body woods Kevin uses with either satin, matte or gloss finish. A friend has a satin Spanish Cedar four that still looks like new.

I'm thinking a satin finish will look great for the compression Koa top I got earlier in the year. Just have to figure out what to put it on. And how to fund it.
:D
 
#611
caeman said:
I think the guys that claim heavy is the only way to go are trying to compensate for something else lacking in their life.

:D
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Yessir, I agree. Besides, if you've suffered a terrible injury to the shoulder that supports the weight of the bass (as I have more than one time, darn it), a heavy bass will KILL you after a 4 or 5 hour set, which any working musician is very likely to encounter. :bassist: I can bench over 250 lbs but carrying a weight for a long time on a specific injured part of the body can ultimately be very taxing. Not to mention, most of the lightweight basses I've owned have been the envy of those without one, tonally and aesthetically. Therefore :spit::D.
 
#614
caeman said:
Real men supplement their tone with a great EQ pedal and pre-amp that models old cabs.

;)
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If you're really good you don't need that crap.


:hiding:

Seriously, I know some folks want to believe you can make a bass sound like any other bass via EQ, modeling, etc. and I guess that's possible...

if you really don't know what your sonic target sounds like. Or play through a raft of effects and reduce your bass to being a trigger.

:)
 
#615
I'm not that good. I am mediocre. :) I suck at being medicore. I need modeling and effects to make up for my utter lack of ability.

But, that said, my usual setup is my Johnson plugged into the DI. Sometimes I use the EQ pedal, if I remember to get it out.
 
#616
Brad Johnson said:
Seriously, I know some folks want to believe you can make a bass sound like any other bass via EQ, modeling, etc. and I guess that's possible...
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But wait - according to some people, you don't need all that stuff....an Alembic will give you the sounds of every other bass out there !!!


gebass6 said:
Make a bass that can make ANY other bass sound(Like Alembic does)
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Funny - the 50 or so Alembics I've played, fixed, set up, etc....not a one of them sounded like an old P Bass. Or Jazz Bass. Or Ken Smith. Or Fodera. Or....

Well....they sounded like Alembics.


:D
 
#617
Looking back, has anyone noted that perhaps a big back issue is that the weight is only on one shoulder? Marching band poeple carry stuff that's easily 2x the weight of a bass, but it's balanced weight.

I recall trying to be cool and using one backpack strap. Between that and lots of homework, I think I did some significant destruction when I was a kid. Not many residual issues, but I don't want to mess with it.
 
#618
caeman said:
I'm not that good. I am mediocre. :) I suck at being medicore. I need modeling and effects to make up for my utter lack of ability.

But, that said, my usual setup is my Johnson plugged into the DI. Sometimes I use the EQ pedal, if I remember to get it out.
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The first step to true enlightenment for all of us is understanding our limitations and culpabilities.
:D
 
#619
spade2you said:
Looking back, has anyone noted that perhaps a big back issue is that the weight is only on one shoulder? Marching band poeple carry stuff that's easily 2x the weight of a bass, but it's balanced weight.

I recall trying to be cool and using one backpack strap. Between that and lots of homework, I think I did some significant destruction when I was a kid. Not many residual issues, but I don't want to mess with it.
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Makes me glad I grew up pre-backpacks.
 

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