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Why buy a Sadowsky?

if you divide the cost of a boutique bass by about 35 years then maybe you are paying 150 -200 dollars a year to play something that realizes your sonic and visual dreams and that makes sense, being a photographer I have a couple holy grail type lenses that do things I can't do any other way, but they were costly

my main bass has a ten year old custom shop neck on a 32 year old mia production bass body, it's what I can afford and it plays effortlessly while looking like an 800 dollar used bass
 
I wouldn't post anything like that unless I could link to a trustful source, like say... Roger Sadowsky. That's how rumors are created.

For what it is worth, I would not repeat something I was not sure was correct.
Without the AI overview and directly from Sadowsky's website: August Shop Update - Sadowsky Guitars

"We will be building a maximum of 15 NYC basses a month, both custom builds and stock instruments."

Reliable sources for confirmation are not difficult to find with most search engines should you find yourself doubting the veracity of another's post. ;)
 
Without the AI overview and directly from Sadowsky's website: August Shop Update - Sadowsky Guitars

"We will be building a maximum of 15 NYC basses a month, both custom builds and stock instruments."

Reliable sources for confirmation are not difficult to find with most search engines should you find yourself doubting the veracity of another's post. ;)

I will probably tell the next person who doubts me do a search or two. Since he or she is communicating with me online already.
 
Sorry, I find that very difficult to believe. I must have visited his shop a good ten or so times and I've never seen a Kingston bass there. The shop is tiny and... I just don't see how they would be able to manage anything other than the task of making their handmade basses. On the MTD site's Kingston descriptions the following is mentioned: "Like all MTD Kingston instruments, the (insert model) undergoes a rigorous quality control and setup process in our U.S. facility from master technicians". I would assume that the "U.S. facility" in question is not Mike Tobias' small shop in the woods of Kingston, NY but rather a facility (or facilities) associated with whoever distributes the Kingston series.
Hey, we have a second location devoted to Kingston QC and storage which is also in Kingston, NY. In fact I'm writing this from it right now!

Every single bass passes through either my or my coworker Rob's hands and in a lot of cases it ends up in both our hands before it goes to a shop or customer. We take this part of the process incredibly seriously and I think the level of bass you get from MTD for the money speaks for itself.

Here's a video of what we do for every Kingston Norm Stockton (and all other Bartolini equipped Kingstons). Kingston basses without Barts get the same treatment sans all the electronics work.

 
Hey, we have a second location devoted to Kingston QC and storage which is also in Kingston, NY. In fact I'm writing this from it right now!

Every single bass passes through either my or my coworker Rob's hands and in a lot of cases it ends up in both our hands before it goes to a shop or customer. We take this part of the process incredibly seriously and I think the level of bass you get from MTD for the money speaks for itself.

Here's a video of what we do for every Kingston Norm Stockton (and all other Bartolini equipped Kingstons). Kingston basses without Barts get the same treatment sans all the electronics work.



Thanks for sharing!
 
Hey, we have a second location devoted to Kingston QC and storage which is also in Kingston, NY. In fact I'm writing this from it right now!

Every single bass passes through either my or my coworker Rob's hands and in a lot of cases it ends up in both our hands before it goes to a shop or customer. We take this part of the process incredibly seriously and I think the level of bass you get from MTD for the money speaks for itself.

Here's a video of what we do for every Kingston Norm Stockton (and all other Bartolini equipped Kingstons). Kingston basses without Barts get the same treatment sans all the electronics work.



That Norm Stockton Model
Is a whole lot of bass for $2,400. I could justify selling some stuff to buy one.
 
That Norm Stockton Model
Is a whole lot of bass for $2,400. I could justify selling some stuff to buy one.
Street price is actually $2099

But yeah even we were pretty blown away after we got the protos assembled with the electronics. It's a monster, but don't take it from me... I'm pretty biased :D
 
Street price is actually $2099

But yeah even we were pretty blown away after we got the protos assembled with the electronics. It's a monster, but don't take it from me... I'm pretty biased :D

I would start a thread about Sadowsky and end up with GAS for an MTD, $2,099 is fantastic price the Kingston Norm Stockton Model.
 
I guess the short answer to “why buy a Sadowsky?” would be “because you value what they can do and are willing to pay for it”. This below is a condensed version of my history with Sadowsky basses, Roger and the crew at the NYC shop…

Back in 2013 I was lucky enough to get ahold of Rickey Minor’s 5-string Sadowsky when I was first starting my journey into boutique basses. I had tried some Mike Lulls as well as some non-FSO boutiques like Pedulla and Ken Smith but the Sadowsky sound and the wonderful customer service from Roger is what won me over with this first NYC (purchased it used direct from the NYC shop):

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After a few years of playing this one I sold it through the NYC shop to help finance my first custom build #1 from the Sadowsky NYC Shop (happily it went back to Rickey!). In the meantime I was playing a Mike Lull T5 and Warwick Star Bass that I really liked but I still needed that Sadowsky sound for some applications, so I bought another NYC used (this time from Tully Kennedy):

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After a couple years of playing this NYC my custom build #1 was ready from the NYC shop! The first custom bass I’d ever owned and it was a great experience with Roger and the crew (at the time Ellis Hahn was my main contact and head builder on this bass), and they took a crazy idea I’d had for a P pickup with switchable options similar to the Super J they already offered and made it a reality! To say I was blown away and humbled would be an understatement:

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This became my #1 and pretty much only bass I played since I received it in early 2019 for several years. The fact that Roger, Ellis and the crew treated me as kindly and patiently as they did when I wasn’t a famous musician (and still am not!) really meant a lot to me (Ellis in particular was great about fielding my questions and keeping me updated in the development of the Super P pickup).

After a move to Nashville I did pick up one of the Chinese MetroExpress 5’s for a great price, I’ll call this the Version 1.5 as it had Roger’s regular Sadowsky logo on it but had a non-roasted neck. Eventually I installed a Sadowsky drop-in preamp and it became an awesome bass in its own right and perfect “fly bass”, then sold it to a friend in town because she fell in love with it:

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During this time I’d had a second custom build in the process with Roger and the NYC crew. In 2023 the reverse headstock Sadowsky on the right with the maple fretboard arrived; very different woods and body shape from my #1 build and a radically different vibe and voice. By this time Ellis had left to start L.E.H. Guitars out in Portland, OR so this second build was done with Lukasz as the head builder and my main point of contact for this bass (and he was incredible to work with regarding questions and weird side-missions for this bass like the custom anodized gold brushed aluminum pickguard!). Later custom build #3 arrived in 2025 as an almost-identical twin to build #2 (both pictured here, the only difference is a morado fretboard on #3 versus #2’s maple and a slightly different burst). I’m especially thankful for Lukasz for these two basses, he went way above and beyond to make sure I’d love every aspect of these basses from the profile of the neck to the flathead screws in the pickguard (in keeping with the vibe of a 50’s P bass). Oh, @MultiScaleMale, some relic work from the NYC shop is indeed an option but there’s definitely a charge for it:

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So now I’m down to just my three custom Sadowsky NYC’s, all 5-string Super PJ setups. The two with the anodized gold pickguards are perfect for the 90’s country I tend to play most often and really shined this last month when I was touring both 90’s country and western country swing shows (I just got home from tour this morning). The fancy flamed Super PJ5 has a more aggressive and piano-like tone to it so I like to use it with more rock-based songs, and several of my friends have taken to calling that my “tuxedo bass” for more formal gigs:

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I share all of this to offer my answer to “why buy a Sadowsky” from my point of view. I have no doubt that other builders can and do offer great levels of support from their custom shops, but falling in love with the inherent “Sadowsky sound” as well as Roger and the crew’s willingness to make my crazy dreams a reality with these builds is what kept me coming back to them to make the basses I play in my career, and I can honestly say I’m still just as excited to play these basses at shows as when I first received them!!

It’s definitely true that they can get quite expensive when choosing options from the NYC shop (I don’t have any experience with the German custom shop) but most of these Sadowsky basses have paid for themselves in gig money within a year (#3 hasn’t yet, but I just got it about five weeks ago!). For my money and career it’s equally about the killer instruments coming from Roger’s NYC shop as well as the supportive relationships between Roger, Lukasz, the rest of the NYC crew and the players that they build for.
 

Hey, we have a second location devoted to Kingston QC and storage which is also in Kingston, NY. In fact I'm writing this from it right now!

Every single bass passes through either my or my coworker Rob's hands and in a lot of cases it ends up in both our hands before it goes to a shop or customer. We take this part of the process incredibly seriously and I think the level of bass you get from MTD for the money speaks for itself.

Here's a video of what we do for every Kingston Norm Stockton (and all other Bartolini equipped Kingstons). Kingston basses without Barts get the same treatment sans all the electronics work.


Good to know - thanks for the clarification!
 
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I’ll say it till I’m blue in the face. The best Sadowsky value available today is ANY Japan produced model. Street price is between $1800-$2500. With that you get premier build quality, at a very digestible price. Ive had probably over 2 dozen Chinese models come across my bench, and every one needed something. Even if it was only the VTC upgrade ( which used to be under $89 and could be done at home with a soldering iron. Now its $200). AS where every Japan model comes complete. With ALL the standard options, except chambering on the ESP built production models ( the ORIGINAL metroExpress) .

If you really want the sadowsky experience without the $3K and up price, find a japan model.
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I purchased ALL these for between $1800 and $2300. All fantastic. All made in Japan. Theres a few in the classifieds now.
 
Some of us would rather have that one incredible bass than multiple standard basses. Maybe we sell one or two basses to finance the deal.
Hey, I’ve been trying to come home to Fender since 2009. Ordered my first Custom Shop, a Custom Classic Jazz Bass. It was a disappointment, to put it mildly, after waiting 9 months. Fit and finish, quality control from Hell. Swirl marks in the clear coat, gap between the pickguard and control plate, and a neck profile that I can’t imagine how they called it a Jazz bass. Also the bass on the preamp distorted when you turned it up too much.
Been trying to buy Fenders since then, but I like lighter basses and am tired of being stuck with a few colors with each fretboard and pickguard. And the wildly varying weights. Mod Shop offers a semi chambered Ash body on a Jazz, but no one at Fender will even give me an estimate of the weight range. Just order it, oh and no refunds on Mod Shop!
In contrast, when I bought my most recent Sadowsky, I had a phone conversation with Roger (as in Sadowsky). He took as much time as I needed and answered all my questions. Sometimes you can’t put a simple price on customer service like that.
A 3k bass is not a standard