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why can so many drummers not play like this kid can?

#43
Lagado said:
Natural ability on that particular plane. There has been another development that has seen a new wave of younger players, tuition at your fingertips. Back in the mid '80s when I felt I couldn't progress any further on my own, it took almost 6 hours out of the day to travel to and from and have an hour lesson. Now you have the top guys, right here.
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This plays a large role as well.

YouTube and other online platforms are essentially as good of a learning platform as any music school that has ever existed.

The singer/guitarist from Zoviet has no formal training of any kind: he was a semi-child star drummer of a band in Mexico, and decided he wanted to learn to sing and play guitar to form his own band.

He taught himself how simply by watching YouTube videos.

Some years of intense practice later, he sounds and plays like this:

 
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why can so many drummers not play like this kid can?
the kid has chops...and so many drummers don't.

what makes for great chops is different/nuanced among talented players, but chops are chops. most folks with drumsets don't have chops....just like here: most folks with basses don't have chops either! :laugh:

she's doing some relatively simple stuff, impeccably. who can do any better than that?* :D


*hint: no one can do better than that! ;)
 
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#48
MDBass said:
This plays a large role as well.

YouTube and other online platforms are essentially as good of a learning platform as any music school that has ever existed.
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You've never been to a music school. It's a different experience. If you asked Jamerson what inspired his lines, it was lived experience. There is only so much you can do online.
 
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Lagado said:
You've never been to a music school. It's a different experience. If you asked Jamerson what inspired his lines, it was lived experience. There is only so much you can do online.
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I graduated with honors from Musician's Institute in 2008, actually.

Not sure why you're looking to argue with me, but I sincerely hope you have a good weekend.
 
#50
MDBass said:
This plays a large role as well.

YouTube and other online platforms are essentially as good of a learning platform as any music school that has ever existed.

The singer/guitarist from Zoviet has no formal training of any kind: he was a semi-child star drummer of a band in Mexico, and decided he wanted to learn to sing and play guitar to form his own band.

He taught himself how simply by watching YouTube videos.

Some years of intense practice later, he sounds and plays like this:

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Then why do even the best musicians in the world still take lessons? Why do doctors go to medical school?
 
#51
And regarding the mechanics of drumming, bass playing, skateboarding, coding, etc. Kids have a new jumping off point with every generation. Not saying they don't have to work. They do. But a middle school bass player has heard Jaco, for example, and sees that within reach much more naturally than a seasoned adult would. I made sure to include skateboarding in my open because every and any 10 year old can do most of the tricks that Tony Hawk created. It's within reach if it surrounds you as you are learning and developing. Can't wait to see this kid in 10 years.
 
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MDBass said:
Not sure what you're asking.

I just pointed out that lessons exist online now in a way they didn't even ten years ago.
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I'm not doubting the advantage of using on line lessons - I'm on youtube daily. But nothing can replace a teacher who can watch you specifically, and the level of teaching at a great music college is so much better than what you will find on line.
Lagado said:
Are they better than any music school that ever existed as you state?
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pcake said:
no youtube, but there were all sorts of lesson tapes. my favorites were the starlicks videos in the '80s. i used to watch and rewatch the michael angelo and ingwie ones over and over.
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I loved this slap bass DVD back in the day:



It was great getting to study with Alexis in person at MI, he was the head of BIT while I was there.

The quantity and availability of lesson content has gone up exponentially in the last ten years though: a kid born with natural ability who can't afford formal training has a ton of incredible free resources at the fingertips as long as they have internet access.
 
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