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why did you have children?

Relic said:
First kid? Wasn't really timed, it just happened. Oops.
In fact, I didn't want kids at first, I thought I was "too selfish" and loving it, I was too into doing my own thing, too comfortable with living my life on my own terms with no big responsibilities like that. Plus, I thought kids were kinda ugly...drooling, pooping, bothering the heck out of ya when you want to be left alone.. In fact, read through any thread like this and look at the posts of those who are against having kids, look at their reasons - that was me.
Then the "oops" happened.
Now for the Hallmark moment.. the first time I held my son, some sort of primal switch flipped in my brain. *click* I'm a dad and this is my beautiful, perfect, indescribably cute son who I would give up anything for and jump in front of a moving train to protect if I had to. It changes you to the core. Man, I thought I had it made BEFORE I had my kids? Pfff.. wasn't s--t compared to what I have now. :)
I've had two more sons since then.

Yep, EXACTLY

I didn't want the little boogers either, but damn if I couldn't imagine life w/o them now.
 
Why did you decide to become a bass player?

Was it because your friends already played guitar and so your first choice wasn't available?

Or because you lack coordination and musical ability so you wanted an instrument that was easy to play?

Perhaps you were poor and a relative had a bass so you didn't have to buy a real instrument.

Was it because you were shy or lacked energy and wanted to blend in at the back if the stage?

Or we're you a tuba player in school and learned to love low notes?


OMG. So perfect. :D
 
Why did you decide to become a bass player?

Was it because your friends already played guitar and so your first choice wasn't available?

Or because you lack coordination and musical ability so you wanted an instrument that was easy to play?

Perhaps you were poor and a relative had a bass so you didn't have to buy a real instrument.

Was it because you were shy or lacked energy and wanted to blend in at the back if the stage?

Or we're you a tuba player in school and learned to love low notes?

Lol, on the defense again I see. Weird.

This doesn't bother me.

I took up bass because I thought playing guitar was cool and I wasn't any good at wind instruments.
 
I am being respectful of others opinions so I hope that people wont freak out on me for my view points or try to change my decision.

I decided to not have children because I view life as to short to spend it raising someone else. Say I live 80 years , 1/4 of that is to raise a kid , if you have 3 or 4 over a span of 10 years then 30 years of your life is ate up raising kids. As I said life is to short.

A child costs around 250000$ to raise to 18 , more if your paying for college. Then of course all that other crap like weddings and stuff.

I do also feel the world is over populated and feel if more people took steps like not having them then we could help slow this population growth. Then with this money we save we could help other countries with population bursts get more readily available birth control.

If a person does choose to have kids they should only replace/replicate yourself. Thus a man and a woman is 2 people should they decide to have kids they should replicate themselves meaning 2 children , if everyone decided to have 3 you can imagine the exponential growth. Then there are people that have 10 kids, that is not helping issues.

I would like to travel , have no ties and leave when I like. Id like to have nice possessions I never had growing up due to my parents having me as teens.

I have seen so many children go through divorces and I have also seen how bad society is and I don't want to have kids living in this and I am very protective of females having had to almost raise my baby sister as i had a single father working late nights, thus I would be very overbearing If i had a daughter.

I have had people tell me I am self fish-but I replied that wanting to replicate yourself, carry on your DNA , have someone to wipe your ass when your old or wanting to have your own child when many orphans need homes is self fish.

That said-If I met a girl who had older kids , like 7 or older and we hit it of I could stand 2 kids if i really liked this girl , but I wouldn't pretend to be there father if they didn't want it , my step mom tried to do that and i finally told her , look i like you but your not my mom , I cant call you mom. If the kid called me dad Id be honored to except. ALSO I would adopt if someone came to me in a bad spot and needed a family , if someone in my family was a druggie and couldn't care for there kid etc.

I respect your opinion and wouldn't try and change your mind. It is best when we are all honest and know where each other stand.
 
None of those. I have three Daughters 25, 21,and 7. I had children to love,support,educate,learn from,laugh with,cry with, and in the end make my life complete and give me a reason to be here..being a Father.
 
Why did you decide to become a bass player?

Was it because your friends already played guitar and so your first choice wasn't available?

Or because you lack coordination and musical ability so you wanted an instrument that was easy to play?

Perhaps you were poor and a relative had a bass so you didn't have to buy a real instrument.

Was it because you were shy or lacked energy and wanted to blend in at the back if the stage?

Or we're you a tuba player in school and learned to love low notes?

I'll take that answer.
 
i am amused that some people who question the OP's opening statement have been called "Defensive"...you have to admit (or maybe not), that his opening selection of questions seemed to indicate a lack of POSITIVE reasons for having kids.

that said, i am lucky to be here. my mom was diagnosed with placenta previa back in the 50's and that usually meant a miscarriage. she spent three months in the hospital flat on her back to make sure i would come out ok.

my parents were married 13 years before they had me, always really wanted kids, and finally got me (more's the pity them....:p) and she did everything she could to help me come into the world.

fast forward. my own wife was diagnosed with blocked tubes. they told us that we could not have children...but, lo and behold, she turns up pregnant after, you guessed it, 13 years of marriage. we rushed down and had her checked by the docs to make sure it wasn't a tubal pregnancy and somehow, against all odds, an egg had slipped thru her supposedly blocked tubes.

now fast forward to today, some 15 years later. my son is the joy of my life and my wife would say the same. my absolute best friend in the world.

a great bass player too, but that's neither here nor there. i can't imagine what life would be like without him....SO

based on all the foregoing, let me turn the OP's question around.

WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT CHILDREN?

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If a person does choose to have kids they should only replace/replicate yourself. Thus a man and a woman is 2 people should they decide to have kids they should replicate themselves meaning 2 children , if everyone decided to have 3 you can imagine the exponential growth. Then there are people that have 10 kids, that is not helping issues.

I would like to travel , have no ties and leave when I like. Id like to have nice possessions I never had growing up due to my parents having me as teens.

I have seen so many children go through divorces and I have also seen how bad society is and I don't want to have kids living in this and I am very protective of females having had to almost raise my baby sister as i had a single father working late nights, thus I would be very overbearing If i had a daughter.

I have had people tell me I am self fish-but I replied that wanting to replicate yourself, carry on your DNA , have someone to wipe your ass when your old or wanting to have your own child when many orphans need homes is self fish.

That said-If I met a girl who had older kids , like 7 or older and we hit it of I could stand 2 kids if i really liked this girl , but I wouldn't pretend to be there father if they didn't want it , my step mom tried to do that and i finally told her , look i like you but your not my mom , I cant call you mom. If the kid called me dad Id be honored to except. ALSO I would adopt if someone came to me in a bad spot and needed a family , if someone in my family was a druggie and couldn't care for there kid etc.


My girlfriend has 4 kids. 2, 4, 7, 12. I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if it was going to be worth it. Basically, two months in, I'm super happy. Yeah, it's a lot of work, and yeah, there are Saturday mornings that I wish we cold just lay in bed in stead of making breakfast for the kids, etc., but I couldn't be happier. It's funny what being around kids that you care about does to your perspective of parenting.

If you do get into a relationship with a girl with kids, you'll find that, whether they like it or not, those kids need you to play a "father-like" role to them, but so far, it's been really rewarding.

The 4 year old was throwing a tantrum one night about cleaning his room while my GF was making dinner. I had tried to calmly get him to do what he needed to do, and I busted out my "dad voice" for the first time. GF came running, and thought I was legitimately mad. We met eyes when she came in the door and I covered my mouth and had to leave, because I was laughing so hard. It's been really good for everyone involved.
 
i am amused that some people who question the OP's opening statement have been called "Defensive"...you have to admit (or maybe not), that his opening selection of questions seemed to indicate a lack of POSITIVE reasons for having kids.

that said, i am lucky to be here. my mom was diagnosed with placenta previa back in the 50's and that usually meant a miscarriage. she spent three months in the hospital flat on her back to make sure i would come out ok.

my parents were married 13 years before they had me, always really wanted kids, and finally got me (more's the pity them....:p) and she did everything she could to help me come into the world.

fast forward. my own wife was diagnosed with blocked tubes. they told us that we could not have children...but, lo and behold, she turns up pregnant after, you guessed it, 13 years of marriage. we rushed down and had her checked by the docs to make sure it wasn't a tubal pregnancy and somehow, against all odds, an egg had slipped thru her supposedly blocked tubes.

now fast forward to today, some 15 years later. my son is the joy of my life and my wife would say the same. my absolute best friend in the world.

a great bass player too, but that's neither here nor there. i can't imagine what life would be like without him....SO

based on all the foregoing, let me turn the OP's question around.

WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT CHILDREN?

davesignatureII-1.png

That's awesome Dave I love it when I hear things like this. Internet high five to your parents, you and your wife and your son.
 
I am being respectful of others opinions so I hope that people wont freak out on me for my view points or try to change my decision.

I decided to not have children because I view life as to short to spend it raising someone else. Say I live 80 years , 1/4 of that is to raise a kid , if you have 3 or 4 over a span of 10 years then 30 years of your life is ate up raising kids. As I said life is to short.

A child costs around 250000$ to raise to 18 , more if your paying for college. Then of course all that other crap like weddings and stuff.

I do also feel the world is over populated and feel if more people took steps like not having them then we could help slow this population growth. Then with this money we save we could help other countries with population bursts get more readily available birth control.

If a person does choose to have kids they should only replace/replicate yourself. Thus a man and a woman is 2 people should they decide to have kids they should replicate themselves meaning 2 children , if everyone decided to have 3 you can imagine the exponential growth. Then there are people that have 10 kids, that is not helping issues.

I would like to travel , have no ties and leave when I like. Id like to have nice possessions I never had growing up due to my parents having me as teens.

I have seen so many children go through divorces and I have also seen how bad society is and I don't want to have kids living in this and I am very protective of females having had to almost raise my baby sister as i had a single father working late nights, thus I would be very overbearing If i had a daughter.

I have had people tell me I am self fish-but I replied that wanting to replicate yourself, carry on your DNA , have someone to wipe your ass when your old or wanting to have your own child when many orphans need homes is self fish.

That said-If I met a girl who had older kids , like 7 or older and we hit it of I could stand 2 kids if i really liked this girl , but I wouldn't pretend to be there father if they didn't want it , my step mom tried to do that and i finally told her , look i like you but your not my mom , I cant call you mom. If the kid called me dad Id be honored to except. ALSO I would adopt if someone came to me in a bad spot and needed a family , if someone in my family was a druggie and couldn't care for there kid etc.

This is why we only have one. We're pretty flexible, and he doesn't really encroach upon my lifestyle, in fact, he enhances it. I still surf (he surfs too), I still play music (he plays too), and I still play golf (he plays too), and all the other things that I'm involved with. We also still travel quite a lot. As far as costs go, I don't really notice it. He's involved in a lot of things, but to me this has just altered my life a little bit. I don't really go to a lot of bars to drink anymore (and that's about what my son costs a month) , so it's not really that big a burden. As far as the world thing goes, I hear you. I feel kind of the same way. As a result, I have also taken upon this sense of worry. I worry about what kind world he will inherit. That part keeps me up at night sometimes.
 
Here's another question. The decision to not have children is a valid one. Why did people decide not to have children. They had a horrible childhood? No one is willing to have children with them? They can't afford it? Too much commitment? They are infertile? They are concerned about overpopulation?

I've been pretty adamant that I don't want children - or at least my own biological children - for sometime. It really comes down to two things.

First, I am honestly really not that into kids. A child screaming is worse than nails on a chalkboard to me, and I really just don't like spending time around young kids. If I could skip the first 10 years, I may be more open to the idea of having a kid. So therefore, I'm not totally opposed to the idea of adoption. Yes, I do know that older children come with their own issues, but I really don't like being around kids who aren't old enough to at least be in elementary school yet.

Second, I'm an overachiever, and like a lot of overachievers I know, I'm more focused on my career than raising a family. There are a lot of things I really want to do in life and having a child would seriously make some of those things difficult. I like my freedom in that regard. Being happy in my career is one of the most important things to me, and I would loathe to be put in the position to have to take a job I hate simply because I had a number of mouths at home to feed. Is that abdication of responsibility a little selfish? Perhaps a little, but I've spent a lot of time and money on my education, so I'm not going to apologize for it. Also, while I'm not a materalistic person, I do like having disposable income.
 
I'm glad I had kids young and didn't wait, I feel like I can relate much better than other parents that I know.
My oldest will be 20 and I'll still only be 40 still pretty young.
Even my youngest will turn 20 when I'm turning 50 again still pretty young in my opinion.

I have a buddy that has parents older than most peoples grandparents.
His older siblings are more like the age of what average parents are. At 21 his parents were in their late 80's hell be lucky if they're around long enough to see him get married or have kids of his own.
Even if they are their health is so delicate that his kids won't get the relationship that my kids will have with my parents who are still not even 60 yet.

If I had it to do over again I wouldn't change anything except who I had my first child with. But the age was great. Nerve racking but great.
 
I've been pretty adamant that I don't want children - or at least my own biological children - for sometime. It really comes down to two things.

First, I am honestly really not that into kids.
This pretty much sums me up. Been around them my whole life, and just don't really feel any need to have one. Maybe I'm missing that gene?

I don't bash others for having them, it's just no my thing.
 
I've been pretty adamant that I don't want children - or at least my own biological children - for sometime. It really comes down to two things.

First, I am honestly really not that into kids.
This pretty much sums me up. Been around them my whole life, and just don't really feel any need to have one. Maybe I'm missing that gene?

I don't bash others for having them, it's just no my thing.

Some of us want kids, some of us don't and some of us prefer to adopt. I think each is a valid choice. It's funny I know people that really want kids and can't have them and I know some people that have kids and really don't seem that interested in their own children. Maybe some of us are better off without children but I'm happy that we each get to make our own choice.
 
I've been pretty adamant that I don't want children - or at least my own biological children - for sometime. It really comes down to two things.

First, I am honestly really not that into kids.

Some of us want kids, some of us don't and some of us prefer to adopt. I think each is a valid choice. It's funny I know people that really want kids and can't have them and I know some people that have kids and really don't seem that interested in their own children. Maybe some of us are better off without children but I'm happy that we each get to make our own choice.

Agreed.
 
I met a woman who is everything I ever dreamed of and we both wanted children. We are celebrating our first wedding anniversary today and our baby boy is sleeping in my arms as I type this.

It is not the easiest thing in the world to do, but we have travelled all across the US and to Europe with him before he was 7 months old. He goes everywhere with us and hasn't held us back one bit.

Philosophically, I am opposed to people having children unless there is a reasonable chance of them growing up to have a positive impact on humanity. The world is already full of mediocre, selfish, and willfully ignorant people. My hope is that our son will grow up to find his place where he can do the most good for his family and those around him.