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Why do death metal bands use complex words

I would like to hear that type of music without that F-in Vocal style...

My God...

Add a someone that is not trying to sound like a pathetic demon (IMHO and just mine) like a Rob Halford or Dio like aspect and it I think this would have a wider audience.
Again...IMHO


As a fan, I agree. We all know how hard it is to find a good singer though, and like all genres 90% or more is generic derivative unimaginative crap so it's follow the leaders.

On the upside, and not to hijack the thread but any chance to share good music and open ears or minds is a good one, here are latter-day examples by bands that started with cookie monster vocals. Growth and change happens to legit artists, same as in any genre:







Many other examples, and it's perhaps worth noting most of these were leaders not followers in the genre. Cathedral (look up "Hopkins" for an aural and visual joy ride if you're into catchy heavy groove riffs and hot women), Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride most notably. Often the change is forced by vocal cord damage, but whatever works is OK given the amazing and pleasantly surprising end results.

Back on topic, genre godfathers Morbid Angel are still going strong and successful primarily because of, when you get right down to it, a lot of very catchy choruses mixed in with all the time signatures, gurgling, shredding and chaos. No matter the genre, you've got to deliver the hits to get and stay on top.
 
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As a fan, I agree. We all know how hard it is to find a good singer though, and like all genres 90% or more is generic derivative unimaginative crap so it's follow the leaders.

On the upside, and not to hijack the thread but any chance to share good music and open ears or minds is a good one, here are latter-day examples by bands that started with cookie monster vocals. Growth and change happens to legit artists, same as in any genre:







Many other examples, and it's perhaps worth noting most of these were leaders not followers in the genre. Cathedral (look up "Hopkins" for an aural and visual joy ride if you're into catchy heavy groove riffs and hot women), Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride most notably. Often the change is forced by vocal cord damage, but whatever works is OK given the amazing and pleasantly surprising end results.

Back on topic, genre godfathers Morbid Angel are still going strong and successful primarily because of, when you get right down to it, a lot of very catchy choruses mixed in with all the time signatures, gurgling, shredding and chaos. No matter the genre, you've got to deliver the hits to get and stay on top.

Meh, give me Bolt Thrower any day.
 
As a fan, I agree. We all know how hard it is to find a good singer though, and like all genres 90% or more is generic derivative unimaginative crap so it's follow the leaders.

On the upside, and not to hijack the thread but any chance to share good music and open ears or minds is a good one, here are latter-day examples by bands that started with cookie monster vocals. Growth and change happens to legit artists, same as in any genre:

Many other examples, and it's perhaps worth noting most of these were leaders not followers in the genre. Cathedral (look up "Hopkins" for an aural and visual joy ride if you're into catchy heavy groove riffs and hot women), Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride most notably. Often the change is forced by vocal cord damage, but whatever works is OK given the amazing and pleasantly surprising end results.

Back on topic, genre godfathers Morbid Angel are still going strong and successful primarily because of, when you get right down to it, a lot of very catchy choruses mixed in with all the time signatures, gurgling, shredding and chaos. No matter the genre, you've got to deliver the hits to get and stay on top.

Thanks for sharing...I like what going on in the first video and the third one is more of what I'm talking about and a good example.
 
Love me some Bolt Thrower!


Thanks for sharing...I like what going on in the first video and the third one is more of what I'm talking about and a good example.

You're welcome. Thanks for listening. Given you're digging the Katatonia and seem into heavier riffs, I think there's a very good chance you'll love their "Great Cold Distance" album. I think it's their heaviest, and contains a lot of should-be hits. Also the track "Forsaker" which opens the "Night Is The New Day" album is a must hear. Make sure your neck isn't stiff first.
 
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I've been saying it for years! Few seem to listen. Maybe I should stop screaming it in death metal vocals? ;)
Death Metal is certainly one of the more acquired tastes of subgenres.
It took me quite a while to get into it when I first heard it, too.

When people describe it as "just noise", I don't blame them. It sounded just like that to me as a young teen. Now it is my favourite style of music. Who would have thought?
 
Metal is a surprisingly intelligent style of music when you actually take some time out to listen. Up there with the likes of Classical and Jazz.

I do think there's been a lot of changes in metal since I was a kid in the 80s. Then it was stupid headbanging music for the crowd of adolescent boys we used to call "buzzards" where I was from (cue howls of protest from fans of the era). But since then, it's a) splintered among subgenres, b) become less popular, and c) been a genre that rewards virtuosity. In those respects, I think the comparison to classical or jazz is really not all that far off. I'm at the point where I don't particularly enjoy it, but I respect it a lot more - rather like opera.
 
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Epic vocabulary is epic! Just like the music is intended to be! So many metal bands from before had mindless chugging riffs coupled with lame song titles like "Blood Puke" or "Death Fist Kill Guy", so it's probably a conscious deviation from the unintelligible diction of previous musical raconteurs.

Sorry, I just joined a Prog Metal band...sounds like we may be more death metal than I thought :(
 
I'm down with the "Death Fist Kill Guy".

Regarding the vocals/lyrics: I think it's been covered, but I've always seen it as a post-human approach to writing. Like, it makes it sound removed from the "humanity" of lyrics like "I feel...", and the sort. They've become almost mechanical, de-humanized. (Think of Doctor Manhattan, from "Watchmen" for example.)

(Wow, English not being my first language is biting me in the butt, right about now.)

There's always exceptions to the rule and, for example, Carcass' later stuff springs to mind.
 
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Meh, give me Bolt Thrower any day.

Bolt Thrower is my favorite old school death/grind band. It's a shame they've been so under rated and produce material a such a sluggish rate. They are an amazingly accessible band for people that don't like vocals that are beyond understanding or constant static sounding blast beats.
If you like Warhammer 40k and don't own Realms of Chaos, you suck.
 
Death Metal is certainly one of the more acquired tastes of subgenres.
It took me quite a while to get into it when I first heard it, too.

When people describe it as "just noise", I don't blame them. It sounded just like that to me as a young teen. Now it is my favourite style of music. Who would have thought?

funny because all of the voice-corrected pop stuff is "just noise" to me. Same with smooth jazz and a lot of the movie music that is lumped into "classical" or 'orchestral". Funny how "noise' can take on different meanings....

give me good old Bolt Thrower, Venom, Emporer, Hate Eternal, Meshuggah, Nevermore, Possessed....all that good time rock and roll...any day over what is generally considered as "good music" these days