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Why do people say Metalcore is good?
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DiabolusInMusic
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Why not? I truly just can not take the utter crap that plays on the radio, and no offense to anyone who DOES like it, but it's just bland and repetitive. I know of a band that managed to cover over 20 songs with the same chord progression. It's on youtube, I believe it's called The Four Chords or something like that.
I'm into metal, not necessarily "core" as most of that usually turns out to be close to all the others, because it's what I find appealing. That and bananas(haha.) It wasn't just OH I LIKE THIS! when I first heard metal. I went through punk, rock, post hardcore, and then got to metal and went, Hey, that's good!
That would the The Axis of Awesome, and I believe it is 40 songs. The progression in question is a I-V-vi-IV and it is actually found in far more songs that you would know than the 40 they do. It is the pop, hit, progression. If you consider people using the same progression repetitive you must hate all successful music and only listen to extremely out there stuff. Heck, by your standard all blues is exactly the same, even most early incarnations of rock n' roll songs were just I-IV-Vs. All successful songs are re-using a well established chord progression, that is why they're successful. People like what they know, they fear change.
Long story short, everybody in the world (myself included) listens to ****** music. It is best not to worry about what others listen to.
Just in case you were trying to ask a serious question i'll answer it (although you really need to work on your communication skills).
I listen to some metalcore and a fair amount of what people would call "post hardcore". There are several reasons I like these genre's (along with many other newer sub-genres of metal) so here are a few:
1. It hits me on a visceral level. I like the screaming, the heavy guitar chugging, the machine gun drums (even if they are programmed in protools). It pumps me up, gives me a feeling of energy and, on occasion, mirrors how im feeling after a frustrated day. I connect with the energy the music puts out and I like that.
2. There are a lot of bands within these genres that bring some complicated and interesting instrumental stuff to the table. Yes, there are alot of bands that just chug along on the same riff but bands like Periphery, Dillinger Escape Plan, Poison the Well, Every Time I Die, etc. all bring exciting things to the table for me. I really like Periphery's cinematic style and they have some really interesting parts in between all that chugging you don't like (just like a blues turnaround after chugging on a rhythm part for a long time). Dillinger Escape Plan has alot of erratic rhythms that are anything but boring. Poison the Well played extremely melodic lines and actually used alot of jazz chords set to heavy distortion. Every Time I Die gets me with lyrical content and vocal style. I don't really care for other "metalcore" bands but they must be doing something that somebody likes or they wouldn't be around.
3. Sometimes I like playing something angry to freak my co-workers and neighbours out. Same idea as punk rock back in the day.
I listen to some metalcore and a fair amount of what people would call "post hardcore". There are several reasons I like these genre's (along with many other newer sub-genres of metal) so here are a few:
1. It hits me on a visceral level. I like the screaming, the heavy guitar chugging, the machine gun drums (even if they are programmed in protools). It pumps me up, gives me a feeling of energy and, on occasion, mirrors how im feeling after a frustrated day. I connect with the energy the music puts out and I like that.
2. There are a lot of bands within these genres that bring some complicated and interesting instrumental stuff to the table. Yes, there are alot of bands that just chug along on the same riff but bands like Periphery, Dillinger Escape Plan, Poison the Well, Every Time I Die, etc. all bring exciting things to the table for me. I really like Periphery's cinematic style and they have some really interesting parts in between all that chugging you don't like (just like a blues turnaround after chugging on a rhythm part for a long time). Dillinger Escape Plan has alot of erratic rhythms that are anything but boring. Poison the Well played extremely melodic lines and actually used alot of jazz chords set to heavy distortion. Every Time I Die gets me with lyrical content and vocal style. I don't really care for other "metalcore" bands but they must be doing something that somebody likes or they wouldn't be around.
3. Sometimes I like playing something angry to freak my co-workers and neighbours out. Same idea as punk rock back in the day.
Wait, I think we ALL misunderstood the OP big time. This thread is in the bassists section, so there is obviously some bassist who goes by the name "Metalcore" while we all mistook said bassist as the genre of the same name. By deepest apologies to Mr. Metalcore if he/she ever reads this. And OP, would it be possible for you to point us in the direction of Metalcore's music? I can't seem to find any of their work? Are they a solo artist or part of a band - if the latter, what might their band's name be?
I hope this cleared up any confusion
Honestly, Metalcore's music is average. However, the guy himself is a huuuuge douche. I'd steer clear.
Fat Steve
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So I've been wondering a lot lately at why people actually think metalcore, post-hardcore, etc. are good. I just don't understand how people can think that open E's and breakdowns are musically talented. All it takes is a monkey to hit an open E a bunch of times, and every breakdown is that same. The screaming doesn't help either, just makes it even worse, and you can't even understand what they're saying. Someone please explain to me why people have this mind set.
Why not? I truly just can not take the utter crap that plays on the radio, and no offense to anyone who DOES like it, but it's just bland and repetitive. I know of a band that managed to cover over 20 songs with the same chord progression. It's on youtube, I believe it's called The Four Chords or something like that.
I'm into metal, not necessarily "core" as most of that usually turns out to be close to all the others, because it's what I find appealing. That and bananas
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Your obviously not a fan because they dont chug in E. More like C. But different strokes for different folks.
I get completely lost on genres and labels (in my day it was 'Heavy Metal' or 'Thrash Metal' and we all knew the difference).
But...
If metalcore includes bands like Trivium and Killswitch Engage I can assure you that it isn't just chugging on the E string and screaming. It is very musical with some really interesting dynamics - it just takes a few listens and some concentration to get that. It's like any other kind of music that you aren't used to listening to. You don't hear the nuances and it does all sound the same until you take time to actually listen to it and let your ears get used to it. Exactly the same with jazz, some classical, even country music. It's just all a lot of similar sounding noise until you take the time to listen to it.
The shuffle on my iPod last night took me from Mingus' 'The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady', through to Bjork's Medulla record and then on to Killswitch's 'The Hell in Me'. None was more or less challenging or satisfying than the other.
But...
If metalcore includes bands like Trivium and Killswitch Engage I can assure you that it isn't just chugging on the E string and screaming. It is very musical with some really interesting dynamics - it just takes a few listens and some concentration to get that. It's like any other kind of music that you aren't used to listening to. You don't hear the nuances and it does all sound the same until you take time to actually listen to it and let your ears get used to it. Exactly the same with jazz, some classical, even country music. It's just all a lot of similar sounding noise until you take the time to listen to it.
The shuffle on my iPod last night took me from Mingus' 'The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady', through to Bjork's Medulla record and then on to Killswitch's 'The Hell in Me'. None was more or less challenging or satisfying than the other.
That's awesome!
I guess OP has never hit an open E a "bunch" of times? Or has he???
Well I can't say I dislike all of it... just a good chunk.
I'm certainly glad there are bands out there willing to stay clear of mainstream stuff.
Anti-core, anti-Christian, anti-pop, and anti-emotions. If by best you mean "combining the worst and sadly most common attributes".
To the OP, people say metalcore is good because they like it. I personally think Trivium's new album is amazing, though how "core" it is is up for debate. Avenged Sevenfold's new album is more like Metallica than, say, their earlier stuff, but I always had a soft spot for Bullet For My Valentine's album Scream Aim Fire. It's like thrash, but...thrashier, without being death metal.
I think this is a good mindset to have.
