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Double Bass Why Eb Necks?

So in summary, the six types of bass necks are:
1) D
2) Eb
3) Don’t know/don’t care
4) The correct kind
5) The incorrect kind
6) Other

To which I would add "What difference does it make?" It seems to me this is an issue only for 3/4 DB loyalists. EB players shift mensures all the time and have to adjust muscle memory to compensate. Same thing with DBers who play fractional basses as well as 3/4. We have to adjust to the instrument in hand.
 
SO. I HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. Or, at least, a new-to-me theory that makes a lot of sense. Credit to Korneel Le Compte - Check out his Viennese Bass book here (pdf warning). He specifically talks about this on page 78.

I clicked the link. It's a fascinating reading from a true bass enthusiast who clearly doesn't want to keep anything to himself. So far I was not able to locate the D/Eb neck thing, as I said to myself I'd read this thing whole way through, even though its aim is way away from mine and it's over 500 pages long. Thanks, @eerbrev !
 
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I would have expected to see more Eb neck enthusiasts out here. I have played for years at a time on each. I prefer Eb now, as the block position notes feel less cramped somehow. As Mr. Fitzgerald noted, you find landmarks unique to every bass regardless of Eb/D, so for me it is a question of what is most physically comfortable for each individual
 
I clicked the link. It's a fascinating reading from a true bass enthusiast who clearly doesn't want to keep anything to himself. So far I was not able to locate the D/Eb neck thing, as I said to myself I'd read this thing whole way through, even though its aim is way away from mine and it's over 500 pages long. Thanks, @eerbrev !

Hey, It should be pg 78? I'll quote it. Excuse minor inaccuracies, I'm transcribing!


The original Viennese basses had Eb-necks, rather than the modern D-necks that we mainly use today. (Eb- or D- neck refers to the position of the left-hand thumb and the first finger opposite the thumb, in the exact spot where the neck shape changes into the curve of the block which is inserted into the bass body. Usually, the note under the first finger on the G-string at this point is either a D or an Eb, but often it's actually something in between).

With an Eb-neck, this means that there was some extra space beyond the seventh fret, before the neck joined the body of the bass. Sometimes there's even enough space for an eighth fret. (However, I don't advocate the use of eight frets, especially when you're used to only serve. It's very confusing because the last fret functions as an orientation marker.

Having this "free", open space in the region between the last fret and the thumb position is a great advantage in Viennese Bass Technique: There is more room for extensions and to manoeuver with the left hand. Chordal patterns are easier to execute there, as compared to the cramped space we have with a D-neck. I often use the 4th finger instead of the traditional 3rd on the octave of the first string there, especially in chords with the "a" as the top note. On a D-neck this is a bit harder to do.

Hopefully, Mr. Le Compte doesn't mind me doing that. He does have it up for free, so I assume not, but he can ask me to remove it any time.

He's not quoting from a source here, but he's got a ton of experience, and he's got some good pictures on the following pages as well.
 
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