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Why I lost a bit of respect for Sting (Rick Beato Interview)

I guess my age is showing here. When a band I was in during University days opened for 'big name acts' we actually had a lot of fun with all of them. The Association playing fresbie for two hours with about 30 or so students who were walking by. One singer I won't name played volleyball for four hours after his show. With students. Linda Rhonstadt stomping us at Monopoly on the patio outdoors. Carmine Appice when with Vanilla Fudge asking me "you hungry? . . . still got a few burgers and beer here . . . you can have 'em . . . I'm full and it's time to play!" Two hours later he was putting his $1,000 in his pocket. No pretensions at all. Detroit Wheels guitarist got in a conversation with our guitarist. After a few minutes he sold his guitar to our guy . . . the guitar he had just played onstage. Stuff like that. Good memories.
 
I agree, I watched that video long before this thread and Sting & Beato seemed pretty cool.
I'm thinking mostly this thread didn't work out like the OP expected it to. But I have a bit of a sore spot, being female, because certain groups of people work twice as hard to prove themselves and then are accused of being arrogant when they point out what they've achieved. Looking at Sting, I'm not sure why people would do this to him but apparently they do.
 
OP here. I stand corrected. :rollno:

When I watched the interview, I did not like the fact that Sting kind of took credit for the drum part on 'Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic." Here's a screenshot of that moment:
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Imagine my surprise when a video popped up on my FB feed from The Police talking about the same song... specifically the confirmation from Stewart Copeland himself (read the smaller quote at the top) that Sting, in fact, deserved credit. Here's a screenshot of that:
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So Sting can sleep easier tonight. I have no longer 'lost respect' for him. He's back in my good graces. I'm sure he's relieved. :D
 
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OP here. I stand corrected. :rollno:

When I watched the interview, I did not like the fact that Sting kind of took credit for the drum part on 'Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic." Here's a screenshot of that moment:
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Imagine my surprise when a video popped up on my FB feed from The Police talking about the same song... specifically the confirmation from Stewart Copeland himself that Sting, in fact, deserved credit. Here's a screenshot of that:
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So Sting can sleep easier tonight. I have no longer 'lost respect' for him. He's back in my good graces. I'm sure he's relieved. :D
I'm sure he doesn't care, but it says a lot for you that you're willing to come back and say you've changed your mind. I appreciate that.
 
I really enjoy this interview and found both Sting and Dominic to be humble, gracious, respectful, intelligent… it was a fantastic interview, great questions, thoughtful replies....High level of musical conversation about a craft and the lifelong dedication to it in the room. How anybody can get 'arrogant' from that interview missed the point or did not understand the depth of the topics being discussed. His praise of his former bandmates was evident, he just simply wasn't going to dismiss his own contribution when he answered, nor should he have as that was the question posed to him.

Totally concur with this; was just about to post a similar line of thought but it is here; Sting's personality and mannerisms and language tends to make people feel he is really pretentious. I have seen this since early 80s in magazines and he is just well educated and well read. I think many are mistaking his own personal style for excessive ego. And even if he has, well he is a major contributor to the 20th Century popular music songbook.
I think many just like giving him a little kicking coz he has got it all and makes that publically known.
I adore the guy and his songwriting and his artistry and he has influenced me enormously over the years.
 
Really? I don't see what race has to do with this thread but I think you need to go to the UK and see for yourself about some places being all white, there are places in the US that are all white. The UK is an incredibly divers country and the US pales in comparison. Sting was raised in a town called North Shields a town not far from Newcastle on the river Tyne, A working class industrial city with coal mining and ship building as the primary industry. Yes a predominantly Anglo-Saxon population but there were certainly many other peoples of the world there due to the global British colonies and from other parts of Europe. Newcastle was a major industrial hub and an important harbour for trade so lots of diversity there, more than likely Hendrix was the first black American he has ever seen or he simply didn't get out much as a young lad.

Point of order here - I'm not sure how much this particular theme contributes to the discussion but for the sake of accuracy:

I was born in Wallsend (where Sting was from, not North Shields as mentioned above). If he says he was 17/18 when he saw a black person for the first time, I believe him. Tyneside is wonderfully culturally diverse now, but in the 50s & 60s? Not at all.
 
Loved the Strombo interview. He's great.

Sting seems alright too. Liked some of the hits well enough, but never got into Police or Sting. The solo tunes he performs on Strombo's show though are *HEAVY*. Well done!

Finally listened to the Beato interview. I'm at a total loss to gasp anything other than a thoughtful, intelligent musician vibe. Fantastic job by all involved. I caught no shade being cast on others, or gymnastics to shine a spotlight on himself.

And anyone praising John McLaughlin at regular intervals is thinking correctly!

The tired, shallow, "Nirvana was a major shift / the last major shift" was the only cringe moment for me, which didn't come from Sting anyway. People stuck in the small chamber of the music biz typically see it that way though.

Thankfully we were spared the even worse BS of "we bear no responsibility for terrible albums recorded as distracted, disinterested junkies wholly bankrupt of respect for fans, gratitude, originality and creativity … we didn't sell because of grunge / label / etc.", but I guess that wouldn't apply to Sting/Police. It also doesn't actually apply to the bitter has-beens who spew that, but it never stops 'em.

Few who were big back then stayed sober, solvent, in shape and keep moving forward in skill and artistry so all kudos to him! I'll bet he practices more than he shops or talks. A shining example, IMO.

May we all be able to claim as much artistic & technical, maybe even personal, growth over time.
 
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Totally concur with this; was just about to post a similar line of thought but it is here; Sting's personality and mannerisms and language tends to make people feel he is really pretentious. I have seen this since early 80s in magazines and he is just well educated and well read. I think many are mistaking his own personal style for excessive ego. And even if he has, well he is a major contributor to the 20th Century popular music songbook.
I think many just like giving him a little kicking coz he has got it all and makes that publically known.
I adore the guy and his songwriting and his artistry and he has influenced me enormously over the years.

As Jaco once said, "it ain't bragging if you can back it up."