If you say so. This is probably one of those things you have to feel to understand, and impossible to discuss in a meaningful way. I don’t get it myself - to me people have soul, but objects do not. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
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Why's TC so cheap?
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TC electronic is just new company in the market and even they are normal quality, they should still wourk out the status for the price. The products they make are good and that tone print thing also.
TC was founded in 1976 and has been making top tier digital effect processors for decades. They might be new to the bass amplification world, but they are no newcomers.
That said, the jury is still out on whether they retained their personality since the Behringer acquisition 3 years ago. The good stuff is still available, but B is using their name a lot to give credibility to their lower-end products.
I stand partially corrected. Behringer did indeed buy TC/Tannoy, but much of their support is just operated separately. ie...I talk to different support staff and different engineers when researching service parts, it's constantly changing/evolving of course.
If you spent anytime in recording studios in the 80s, you knew when you’d walked into a pro studio by looking at the rack gear.
Eventide harmonizer, Yamaha SPX90 and a TCE 2290 delay meant it was a pro setup, with the budget to buy the best.
Thank you SOOOO much for posting this! The number of people who think they should only pay for parts and manufacturing (and some think they should only have to pay for parts) is appalling to me. Ever hear of research and development? Ever hear of creativity? Yes, some pedals are straight clones, but I've had the pleasure of owning pedals that were straight magic, and I've been more than happy to pay for the builder's time and attention to detail. If I still think a pedal is overpriced, then I simply don't buy it.
It reminds me of people who think they should get music for free. Apparently, they think music files emerge from random quantum fluctuations, without any creative or physical time and effort involved, not to mention the expense.
Thank you SOOOO much for posting this! The number of people who think they should only pay for parts and manufacturing (and some think they should only have to pay for parts) is appalling to me. Ever hear of research and development? Ever hear of creativity? Yes, some pedals are straight clones, but I've had the pleasure of owning pedals that were straight magic, and I've been more than happy to pay for the builder's time and attention to detail. If I still think a pedal is overpriced, then I simply don't buy it.
It reminds me of people who think they should get music for free. Apparently, they think music files emerge from random quantum fluctuations, without any creative or physical time and effort involved, not to mention the expense.
exactly!
actually my first thought was doctors. my husband spent 30 minutes with a pulmonary specialist and 30 minutes with the tech there. it cost us hundreds and our insurance company a bundle. but that one hour was life-changing as that doctor figured out a problem my husband had had for some time that other doctors with less lung and allergy experience were unable to diagnose.
the kind of thinking that says we should only pay for the easily quantifiable would indicate that the doctor wouldn't be paid a tenth of what his office got paid, but without his years of special training and experience, we would have gotten the same results as we got from the non-specialists. and believe me, what that specialist got paid was worth every penny.
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IMO they had a major personality shift about 10-12 years ago. The personality they developed then is exactly in line with Behringer, so I would not expect there to be any notable changes following that acquisition.
I’ve had a couple of TC pedals in the past year. They seemed to be built well but never functioned properly. Tone print never worked properly, one pedal just stopped working, and each time I contacted them the reply was, that’s not right. Return it and get another, should work then. Tried that twice only to have the same issues even when doing exactly what they told me to do. So, no more TC for me.
I tried out a TC blood moon phaser. It sounded okay. The knobs felt decent. What I didn't like was the power input. It was wobbly and felt like it wouldn't last too long. There also seemed to be a noticeable lag between hitting the footswitch and the effect engaging. Could have just been the pedal I tried though.
It kinda sucks. My regard for them has changed just from this thread.
I never actually owned TC gear but had much respect for it for decades. I always considered TC top of the line for what they did.
I guess they screwed the yak just a bit, the Yak being a German lot lizard whose adoptive parents are from the nether-regions of the Far East.
I never actually owned TC gear but had much respect for it for decades. I always considered TC top of the line for what they did.
I guess they screwed the yak just a bit, the Yak being a German lot lizard whose adoptive parents are from the nether-regions of the Far East.
Hmm... seems to be a whiff of brand envy amongst us here.. I've used Behringer gear for must be 20 years for home use - I only expected....and got, what I paid for. Behringer is to Nina and her 99 Red Luft Balloons as what Acoustic Research Corp. was to Jaco.
As for TC... another garish coloured amp... but geeeze .. do I love my Markbass heads in all their canary yellow splendour - ... I think the word for me is a hypocrite!!
As for TC... another garish coloured amp... but geeeze .. do I love my Markbass heads in all their canary yellow splendour - ... I think the word for me is a hypocrite!!
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Not sure who you're calling a hypocrite or why...Hmm... seems to be a whiff of brand envy amongst us here.. I've used Beringher gear for must be 20 years for home use - I only expected....and got, what I paid for.
As for TC... another garish coloured amp... but geeeze .. do I love my Markbass heads in all their canary yellow splendour - ... I think the word for me is hypocrite!!
Behringer does not market it's brand for home use only, but rather the opposite. I find it's products, particularly TC, to be comparatively substandard. I like some of the TC things, but as toys to play with. Comparing a TC compressor to one that is quality, such as the Diamond, there is no comparison.
Pretty sure he was calling himself a hypocrite for dissing the garish colored TC amp and and then saying he loves his bright yellow Markbass.
We all have our preferences! There's a killer deal on an Eden 410XLT locally... but I can't do carpet covered cabs.
When I saw the TC cabs with the red accent stripes... thought it looked kinda good... in the store, not on my stage.
I'm not sure why there is such hate just because they are owned by a company like Behringer. Jaguar is owned by Tata and it doesn't mean they don't make good cars (I work in the automobile sector, sorry for the analogy). I'm not saying that TC products are like Jaguars. They have focused on the cheaper part of the market IMO (BH Amps and the new BQ) rather than the expensive (RH amps or the Blacksmith). But I don't think they make bad products.
My pedalboard is a mix of TC electronic, Aguilar and EBS. They will never be top line, but they don't want that. They made more affordable pedals that are IMO good in quality. Not the best, but they don't cost as they were either. Besides, I think what they try to do with the Toneprints (in my case, being able to change all the parameters) is a huge innovation in the market.
My pedalboard is a mix of TC electronic, Aguilar and EBS. They will never be top line, but they don't want that. They made more affordable pedals that are IMO good in quality. Not the best, but they don't cost as they were either. Besides, I think what they try to do with the Toneprints (in my case, being able to change all the parameters) is a huge innovation in the market.
