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Why's TC so cheap?

#21
MITTENDORF said:
I didn't know Behringer owns TC.

I stopped buying any Behringer products since they stock NO parts. Nada. It's throwaway stuff with absolutely NO support. It's as if once a product is discontinued it goes off into the twilight zone...or purgatory.
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They are a part of "Music Group" yes, but nothing has changed. They are still built like tanks, and have the same sound and features. I love TC. I think they are amazing. Most name brands get by selling off a name. Peavey for instance, is yet another company that puts out high quality products at affordable prices. Don't be fooled by corporate ownership, or social ignorance.

Yamaha owns Ampeg, so if you buy an SVT, is it not an SVT?
 
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InternetAlias said:
I always find it hilarious when people accustomed to paying $200 find that $60 is cheap for a new pedal when it's still soooooo much more expensive than the sum of it parts and the manufacturing combined. You're just used to a higher standard of living.

When, you know, the actual cost of parts ends up being less than $5 and the manufacturing cost is less than $5

You're paying $50 to go into marketing and profits. That's how mass produced stuff works. In case of electro harmonix stuff (which is really expensive for mass produced stuff), even if you double the price of parts and manufacturing, you still end up with huuuuuuuuuge profits in the end.
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when i pay $60 for anything, i'm paying $50 for knowledge, experience and the time and experimentation that went into the product.
 
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Had their 2 10 combo go out on me a couple months after purchase but still under warranty only to find I had to pay shipping to have it looked at and found some horror stories about some others who had the same issue and got their amp back untouched and money wasted. I won't buy another of their products. A shame really since their Spectracomp is a very good compressor. Really its one of the best in my opinion. The "Behringer" effect on their products is strongly felt if you know what I mean.
 
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Gizmot said:
Some of the people I've talked to have written off TC and some of the other brands that Behringer has bought. No one thinks that TC, Midas, Lab Gruppen and others are as good as they were.

The products are being heavily commoditized (cost-reduced) and although they may cost less, they aren't anywhere near as good as they used to be.
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It seems to me that the prevailing attitude on TB is that nothing is as good as it used to be. Except possibly carrots. :D
 
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Greyfoxxero said:
Had their 2 10 combo go out on me a couple months after purchase but still under warranty only to find I had to pay shipping to have it looked at and found some horror stories about some others who had the same issue and got their amp back untouched and money wasted. I won't buy another of their products. A shame really since their Spectracomp is a very good compressor. Really its one of the best in my opinion. The "Behringer" effect on their products is strongly felt if you know what I mean.
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These "horror stories" also existed before they were part of the same group as behringer is part of..
 
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My guitarist unveiled a brand new all TC toneprint pedalboard for last weekend's gigs. Had probably 6 new and a couple old. Sounded up to par with his other high end stuff through his 50 watt Orange. This guy is a major tone chaser, so I'm sure it will be gone in a few months, but it sounded OK to me, and I'm not a Behringer anything fan.
 
#30
I have had a TC Stereo Chorus / Pitch Mod / Flanger on my board for decades, regardless of instrument (I play basses, guitars and mandolins in many contexts and frequently amplified).

I don't think I have ever played a gig in the last 25 yrs without it and will continue till it passes on to the electronics death pile in heaven....

(Note: the unit pictured is a fancy collector's version - mine is your basic black pedal but they are functionally the same.)

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JeezyMcNuggles said:
They are a part of "Music Group" yes, but nothing has changed. They are still built like tanks, and have the same sound and features. I love TC. I think they are amazing. Most name brands get by selling off a name. Peavey for instance, is yet another company that puts out high quality products at affordable prices. Don't be fooled by corporate ownership, or social ignorance.

Yamaha owns Ampeg, so if you buy an SVT, is it not an SVT?
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Yes, that is true.

One only hopes that the SVT remains an SVT, and not a YTV! LOL
 
#36
Gizmot said:
There are still lots of products out there that have real soul, so there's hope.
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But what IS «soul» exactly? Like the word «mojo», which is bandied about here on TB a good deal, it’s difficult to get a handle on what it really means, since no two people seem to mean exactly the same thing. It generally seems to have connotations of something being either both old and good, or old and fiddly, but worth the effort.

Now, I personally don’t recognize the existence of mojo at all, and I don’t really believe in soul when it comes to products either. Whether it’s old or new, or whether it comes from a factory that turns out millions, or has been lovingly crafted by artisans, has little bearing on the product itself, as far as I’m concerned. It’s either good or it isn’t, I either like it or I don’t. I don’t think it needs to be more complicated than that.
 
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I love that even the $50 mojomojo has silent switching, and it sounds great. I’ve got a pile of tuners, replaced them with polytunes after I tried one and realized how much better it is - display clearly visible even in direct sunlight, locks on very quickly and is super stable. And in the case of tuners TC costs more but is worth it.
 
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Music Group aquired TC. So? These companies operate as independent divisions. This is a Danish Company, sold to Music Group 2015. The product designs remain unchanged. Modern factories in "name your country", are largely computerized with robotic automation. Design specifications and tolerences are not dependent on where the product was assembled. TC has a reputation for making great musical processing and amplification. They deserve that reputation.

The TC products I have used are very good. Very nice Bass amps, Corna Chorus is killer, TCHellicon Vocal processor, also killer. These products are not $60. Where can you find a new Corona Chourus for $60? The premise of this thread is flawed.
 
#39
I have two Behringer pedals on my board and both work well. Whereas Behringer of old would have a clone of any Boss bass pedal that sold, they have since brought the number of pedals manufactured specifically for bass way down. I assume they are letting TC 'rule this roost'. I'm hopeful Behringer is letting TC do their R&D and may lend a hand when it comes time to mass produce the pedal.
 
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pcake said:
when i pay $60 for anything, i'm paying $50 for knowledge, experience and the time and experimentation that went into the product.
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I was going to make a joke and say, "even your groceries?" - but then I realized that yeah, it could apply to that, too.
 
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