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Will I die?

Will I die?

  • Yes

    Votes: 159 52.8%
  • No

    Votes: 35 11.6%
  • No, but don’t

    Votes: 80 26.6%
  • Carrots

    Votes: 27 9.0%

  • Total voters
    301
One

One problem solved, other more serious problems created.

What has happened to basic education???
My younger days ...
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It use to be great fun in the sixties to flip the polarity switch on one amp and then play zap the drummer or singer. Not really, everybody learned that game the first day of garage band 101, along with don't walk on the grass barefoot, and several other lessons on staying grounded. I don't miss the part of setup/sound check where I turned on the amp, grabbed the bass strings and tentatively tapped at the mic to see if there was going to be a shock. I've seen a few clubs where we still got the problem, when the PA was in one outlet and my amp in another, but things are much better with grounded plugs.
 
Also, a note on hospital grade plugs... they aren't necessarily better but they are different in order to meet the additional specialized code articles that relate to hospitals and patient care. These differences (between hospital and commercial/industrial grade) are primarily the UL Listing to UL817, the materials will be suitable to the cleaning compounds used in that industry, there are withdrawl force tests, solid (current carrying) pins, but these days commercial grade plugs will generally meet these specs. Residential grade generally will not.

Also, for some applications and grounding assurance programs, the cord cap or body will be clear to allow for a visual inspection of the grounding conductor. This is not necessarily required by UL817 but is often required by the industry itself under the facility grounding assurance program which is usually engineer supervised.

The commercial Hubbel plugs that I used for touring were virtually identical to the hospital grade (including the same mold number), same materials in this case (Nylon 66) and came contact assemblies. BUT, it's not legal to use the commercial grade in place of hospital grade for patient care because it does not carry the UL817 listing.
 
We had all all kinds of classes available in high school. From electricity to machine shop , auto repair , small engine , drafting ,design etc... these were optional. Encouraged, but optional.

We had finance classes , civics , home economics etc... , these were mandatory.

I find myself teaching my kids , now young adults or grown adults , things I learned in high school that they didn’t learn, because it wasn’t offered.

We were taught to adult.

I’m not sure what happened , but I’ve been pretty much self sufficient since 18-20 or so. It seems like that’s been pushed way out for the younger generations. Not blaming the younger generation, but feel somehow the older generation has possibly failed them in some ways.

All of that was replaced by college prep curriculum.

Problem is, nobody gets “adult prep” then unless it’s taught at home.
 
OP might not die, but I got an old peavey led sled for my old band for christmas for super cheap. The plug was also missing the ground pin, so I drove to princess auto and got a plug from somewhere in that store for like four bucks CAD. took me ten minutes to cut off the old plug, strip a bit of the cord and screw the wires into the correct contacts. Not a lot of hassle to get an amp that most certainly won't kill you.
Be wary. Much of the stuff Princess Auto sells is of questionable quality.
 
Be wary. Much of the stuff Princess Auto sells is of questionable quality.
I DO believe you, but I've yet to have any issues. Then again, I'm not using jack stands or anything like that, I've mostly just bought a couple sockets and a breaker bar for changing tires - just about a year and a half and they're working just fine - but that's really not saying much either. My bandmates say the plug is holding up, and it certainly didn't seem like total trash either.
 
Also, a note on hospital grade plugs... they aren't necessarily better but they are different in order to meet the additional specialized code articles that relate to hospitals and patient care. These differences (between hospital and commercial/industrial grade) are primarily the UL Listing to UL817, the materials will be suitable to the cleaning compounds used in that industry, there are withdrawl force tests, solid (current carrying) pins, but these days commercial grade plugs will generally meet these specs. Residential grade generally will not.

Also, for some applications and grounding assurance programs, the cord cap or body will be clear to allow for a visual inspection of the grounding conductor. This is not necessarily required by UL817 but is often required by the industry itself under the facility grounding assurance program which is usually engineer supervised.

The commercial Hubbel plugs that I used for touring were virtually identical to the hospital grade (including the same mold number), same materials in this case (Nylon 66) and came contact assemblies. BUT, it's not legal to use the commercial grade in place of hospital grade for patient care because it does not carry the UL817 listing.

Man, you’re such a brain!
 
Don’t f*** around with lethal voltages. Many many venues have highly questionable wiring. All it would take is having the hot and neutral swapped to seriously ruin your day. The ground connection ensures you won’t get fried.
Not only that, but if you have two pieces of equipment with ground faults plugged into separate stage receptacles wired to different phases in the panel, you could potentially have 208 to 240 volts between the devices. That'll certainly give you a reaction.

ie: Two guitarists playing old Fender Twins with 2 wire power cords. One says "pass me that cold, frosty beer, will you?"
 
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I know a fellow that bought some U ground male plugs from Princess that looked like Hubbell clones, except they were a carmel color instead of yellow. He discovered the connection clamp screws strip very easily, and the blades are loose enough that they can slide within the bulkhead insulator.

They weren't such a good deal when he tried to install one on an extension cord.
 

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