women in rock......

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by mattbass6945, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. ok, so i was watching this special, "women who rock" on pbs. ok, so they hit on the joan jett, heart, cyndi lauper, etc....but, they skipped over so much!

    mary ford
    carl kaye
    wendy o williams

    i guess they only had so much time, but they included madonna?!?!? guess "rock" is a very broad spectrum. just had to vent....
  2. CrashCarlisle

    CrashCarlisle Guest

    Sep 13, 2011
    At least they got Joan in there.
  3. When you consider who is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (and who isn't) nothing surprises me any more.
  4. elgecko


    Apr 30, 2007
    Anasleim, CA
  5. whoops....badd speeller hear. hehehe.....yeah, was also impressed by the wanda jackson mention also.
    btw, agree totally with nashville bill. what a joke.
  6. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Moderator Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    I saw part of that too. I didn't mind it so much. To me, it was mostly that it was so superficial, a lot of the time just playing a brief clip of music and naming the artist and then moving on. Also, there was very little critical evaluation of anyone - hardly any discussion of influences (other than to say that this or that artist was influential), no discussion of how messed up some of these women were. It was very much a kind of cheerleading exercise rather than a serious discussion of gender, or musical influences, or anything.

    Still, some interesting insights. I was struck by a suggestion that a lot of the male "shouters" of 70s rock - Robert Plant, Steven Tyler- were basically imitating Janis Joplin (rather than following male singers like Jack Bruce or Jim Morrison).
  7. yeah, i picked up on that too. never considered tyler being influenced by female vocalist. a (non-musician) friend of mine made an interesting point. you don't see as many women in rock, because the ideal of touring and sleeping in a van isn't appealing to many women. never thought of that.....
  8. JimK


    Dec 12, 1999
  9. klejst

    klejst Guest

    Oct 5, 2010
    I agree even in her 50's Joan Jett is a great looking all out rock n' roll babe! There are plenty of good looking women musicians out there, I always have a thing for a good looking rocker chick :)
  10. Now that's messed up. I once read in Youtube a comment that said that the girls in L7 were just there posing and playbacking and that someone else (meaning, men) played the instruments behind the scenes (and on recordings). All that, just because they're an all-female rock band. He couldn't grasp that women could rock hard.
  11. Who wouldn't! Good lookin rocker chicks are awesome! Way more so than just good lookin chicks.
  12. klejst

    klejst Guest

    Oct 5, 2010
    Touche' :smug:
  13. I agree, saw her in September with my guitarist and even met her backstage. She's still pretty bad-ass on stage but a total "Sweet Old Lady" behind the scenes, pretty awesome.

    Back to topic, a google search for "Best women in Rock And Roll" reveals a lot to be desired about the media's understanding of Rock and Roll. Most of the lists include Madonna, Janet Jackson, and other unworthies in there. I'm not criticising their success in their genre, but those folks are not doing Rock and Roll. People know their faces, that's all.

    I also understand that the list of women who have made major contributions to rock and roll throughout history is pretty small (and unknown) compared to heavyweights like Hendrix, Journey, Metallica, and so on. However, today's modern music scene is full of amazing ladies who deserve to be on that list FAR more than Madonna and Janet. Google Cristina Scabbia, Alyssa White-Gluz, Alexis Brown, or if you wanna go a bit further back try Karyn Crisis or even Shirley Manson (far more rock and roll than Madonna or Janet).

    It's all about ratings brother; don't think too much of it as long as you know the truth.

  14. He he, just saying. If playing an instrument rock-style makes even a geek/ blob look sexier, what doesn't it do to an already good looking gal? Besides, compared to most good looking girls I've met (i.e. boring, shallow), good looking rock chicks have one of the coolest jobs/ hobbies on the planet (IMO and YMMV), and that alone makes them a lot more interesting.

    Again, just saying :D
  15. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
  16. N.F.A.


    Jun 25, 2009
    In a blue funk
    No Suzi Quatro or Patti Quatro?
  17. Richland123


    Apr 17, 2009
    I have a Ramatam album.

    How about some of these female rockers?

    Alannah Myles
    Grace Slick
    Pat Benatar
    Tantrum was a band that had 3 female singles and male musicians
    Lita Ford
    Sass Jordan
    Lee Aaron
    Darby Mills from The Headpins
    Dale Krantz (later Dale Krantz-Rossington) from the Rossington Collins Band and now Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Ruby Starr from Black Oak Arkansas
    Joyce Kennedy from Mother's Finest
  18. RockerLula

    RockerLula Guest

    Apr 4, 2012
    Milford, MI
    Isn't it interesting that when there is an attractive woman playing rock, it is sometimes questioned whether or not she can really play. :p Frustrating for sure. Great thread here! I love Joan Jett and Lita Ford!
  19. Overall, it seems that traditionally-minded dudes still somewhat dominate in rock music, and most (if not all) apparently think that a rocker woman is an actual oxymoron. Good looking or not. Again, that's messed up.

    I have yet to see a rocker girl perform live, to tell you the truth (I just haven't been out there enough to find them; I tend to find too many female singers but not instrumentalists). But when I do, I want to be blown away. By both her playing and her being a female rockin'! That has to be awesome to behold. And if, on top of that, she's good lookin'... well...
  20. Waldo19


    Jul 9, 2011
    Just recently saw Band of Skulls (Emma Richardson (bass, vocals)) and Wild Flag (all girls no bass though) a couple weeks ago. Some awesome girls plays some great music right now. Carrie Brownstein blew me away. Both bands are worth seeing if you get the chance (IMHO).