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Worship Bass Pedalboards

#4,221
TDR1138 said:
Well, I'm a third of the way through the thread and still reading, but I though I'd throw this up...

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Bass —> Spectracomp —> Beta —> PQ-3B —> tuner —> DI —> house. Thru to amp if needed. Powered by a OneSpot and on a 1/8" thick wood board.

My main gig goes just through the house with monitors, doesn't really want much beyond a warm full signal. Really have no need for modulation or anything.

The comp is always on, just low enough to even out the peaks and not much else. Beta is generally on if I'm playing a P or J style, where the PQ-3B is used when I'm playing my L-1000/L-2000/Gibson EB. I got in the habit of leaving the tuner last on the chain when I played guitar and occasionally would pull a pedal out of the chain mid-set due to noise or battery-only issues or stuff like that.

Periodically I will guest at another church where I use a combo amp at stage volume in addition to going through the house. I can get away with turning up the gain on the Beta there.

I am thinking about moving the PQ-3B out for something else with an integrated DI. Anything from a M-81 to a VT Deluxe to a BK7. No reason other than to change it up and maybe cut the footprint down a little (on a new board). Just musing on it at this point, as I really have no complaints with the PQ-3B.
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Is that where you have your gain set on your Beta? I have the same one, I have my tone turned up, its seems a little dark if I dont
 
#4,223
TDR1138 said:
Well, I'm a third of the way through the thread and still reading, but I though I'd throw this up...

View attachment 3448325

Bass —> Spectracomp —> Beta —> PQ-3B —> tuner —> DI —> house. Thru to amp if needed. Powered by a OneSpot and on a 1/8" thick wood board.

My main gig goes just through the house with monitors, doesn't really want much beyond a warm full signal. Really have no need for modulation or anything.

The comp is always on, just low enough to even out the peaks and not much else. Beta is generally on if I'm playing a P or J style, where the PQ-3B is used when I'm playing my L-1000/L-2000/Gibson EB. I got in the habit of leaving the tuner last on the chain when I played guitar and occasionally would pull a pedal out of the chain mid-set due to noise or battery-only issues or stuff like that.

Periodically I will guest at another church where I use a combo amp at stage volume in addition to going through the house. I can get away with turning up the gain on the Beta there.

I am thinking about moving the PQ-3B out for something else with an integrated DI. Anything from a M-81 to a VT Deluxe to a BK7. No reason other than to change it up and maybe cut the footprint down a little (on a new board). Just musing on it at this point, as I really have no complaints with the PQ-3B.
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Maybe something like this ?
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Bassworship1 said:
Alright I need feedback on the Shure GLX Wireless system for my pedalboard. I want to hear how good and useful the built in tuner is and would it be easy enough and reliable enough to replace a Pedal tuner I have. These are a lot of money but have great feedback from what I've read.
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I used one for a few years and never had a problem with it. The tuner worked great and on point. It replaced my pedal tuner from my board when I had it. Worth the investment if you need wireless.
 
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Bassworship1 said:
Alright I need feedback on the Shure GLX Wireless system for my pedalboard. I want to hear how good and useful the built in tuner is and would it be easy enough and reliable enough to replace a Pedal tuner I have. These are a lot of money but have great feedback from what I've read.
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Currently going back and forth mentally between the Shure GLXD16 and the Line 6 Relay G70. Can't quite decide which one to go with.
 
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PraiseBassing said:
Currently going back and forth mentally between the Shure GLXD16 and the Line 6 Relay G70. Can't quite decide which one to go with.
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Can't comment on the Sure. But I used a Relay system for years when I was playing full-time. It is fantastic, and is hands down the only wireless brand/model that I would EVER use again. It really worked great and significantly enhanced my tone. I think my bass even sounded stronger and purer with the Relay than it did with my Monster cable. (Which may or may not be saying something, depending on your opinion of Monster). Since then (this was probably 10yrs ago), other brands have come out with the digital wirelesses, and they may be just as good. But you can't go wrong with a Relay.
 
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jacoby75 said:
Can't comment on the Sure. But I used a Relay system for years when I was playing full-time. It is fantastic, and is hands down the only wireless brand/model that I would EVER use again. It really worked great and significantly enhanced my tone. I think my bass even sounded stronger and purer with the Relay than it did with my Monster cable. (Which may or may not be saying something, depending on your opinion of Monster). Since then (this was probably 10yrs ago), other brands have come out with the digital wirelesses, and they may be just as good. But you can't go wrong with a Relay.
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The one thing that stands out to me is the system latency of the unit. 1.5ms is good for digital wireless! The two I have used so far are around 4 ms, like the GLXD16, and I really haven't noticed anything myself. We do run through stage boxes, a digital board, and mostly use IEM's though. I think my over thinking mind and slight OCD are pulling me to the Relay.
 
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PraiseBassing said:
The one thing that stands out to me is the system latency of the unit. 1.5ms is good for digital wireless! The two I have used so far are around 4 ms, like the GLXD16, and I really haven't noticed anything myself. We do run through stage boxes, a digital board, and mostly use IEM's though. I think my over thinking mind and slight OCD are pulling me to the Relay.
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I can't say I ever noticed latency to be an issue with the Relay, unless we were on a huge outdoor stage and I walked way out from my amp, like 50-60ft. But that's just a natural byproduct of being far away and how sound travels (and I didn't use in-ears, which would have mitigated that). Small, crowded bars with metal sheeting walls, big pole barns, outdoor stages, concrete patios, it worked great everywhere.
 
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jacoby75 said:
I can't say I ever noticed latency to be an issue with the Relay, unless we were on a huge outdoor stage and I walked way out from my amp, like 50-60ft. But that's just a natural byproduct of being far away and how sound travels (and I didn't use in-ears, which would have mitigated that). Small, crowded bars with metal sheeting walls, big pole barns, outdoor stages, concrete patios, it worked great everywhere.
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I definitely do not foresee any latency issues with the Relay since the published spec is so low.

It would be nice if they listed tuner accuracy, but that's really just nit-picking.
 
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PraiseBassing said:
I definitely do not foresee any latency issues with the Relay since the published spec is so low.
It would be nice if they listed tuner accuracy, but that's really just nit-picking.
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That IS nit-picky. Even by MY standards! Lol. Mine didn't have a tuner, so I can't comment on that. I will say my favorite thing about it was the battery meter. It was shockingly accurate. I knew how much of a gig I could get out my batteries. I let it run down sometimes, and it would always die within 10min or so of when the meter said they would. It gives you confidence going into a gig. And it also saves time and money on changing batteries that might still have plenty of life left.
 
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PraiseBassing said:
The one thing that stands out to me is the system latency of the unit. 1.5ms is good for digital wireless! The two I have used so far are around 4 ms, like the GLXD16, and I really haven't noticed anything myself. We do run through stage boxes, a digital board, and mostly use IEM's though. I think my over thinking mind and slight OCD are pulling me to the Relay.
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I've never felt there was a latency issue with my two Shure pedals (one on each board)...the tuner is superbly accurate, and the signal is very transparent. I a/b with Mogami cables all the time. The signal is really hot (at 0db pedal setting) with my Sadowsky basses, so I set both of my pedals at -2db—basses sound super natural/clear...16+ hours on a charge...highly recommend!
 
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kevk said:
I've never felt there was a latency issue with my two Shure pedals (one on each board)...the tuner is superbly accurate, and the signal is very transparent. I a/b with Mogami cables all the time. The signal is really hot (at 0db pedal setting) with my Sadowsky basses, so I set both of my pedals at -2db—basses sound super natural/clear...16+ hours on a charge...highly recommend!
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Yeah, if I had a rechargeable wireless back in the day, that would have saved me a crap-ton of money! Lol. Sorry. Can I say crap-ton on the worship thread? Poopie-ton.
 
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Bassworship1 said:
Alright I need feedback on the Shure GLX Wireless system for my pedalboard. I want to hear how good and useful the built in tuner is and would it be easy enough and reliable enough to replace a Pedal tuner I have. These are a lot of money but have great feedback from what I've read.
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Here's this summer's initial version of my small pedalboard. GLXD-16 > Cali76XB > B3K > Anadime Chorus > OCSD

Very few direct to FOH gigs coming up, so I'll be going straight to my Bergantino Forte HP / HG410 rig.

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jacoby75 said:
That IS nit-picky. Even by MY standards! Lol. Mine didn't have a tuner, so I can't comment on that. I will say my favorite thing about it was the battery meter. It was shockingly accurate. I knew how much of a gig I could get out my batteries. I let it run down sometimes, and it would always die within 10min or so of when the meter said they would. It gives you confidence going into a gig. And it also saves time and money on changing batteries that might still have plenty of life left.
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jacoby75 said:
Yeah, if I had a rechargeable wireless back in the day, that would have saved me a crap-ton of money! Lol. Sorry. Can I say crap-ton on the worship thread? Poopie-ton.
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Battery life isn't a big deal. Even the small by comparison 5 hour life of the xsw-d gets me through Sunday morning no problem. I have plenty of extra rechargeable AA batteries that could be used for the G70 tho.

kevk said:
I've never felt there was a latency issue with my two Shure pedals (one on each board)...the tuner is superbly accurate, and the signal is very transparent. I a/b with Mogami cables all the time. The signal is really hot (at 0db pedal setting) with my Sadowsky basses, so I set both of my pedals at -2db—basses sound super natural/clear...16+ hours on a charge...highly recommend!
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I don't doubt the the quality of the Shure. Shure makes great stuff!


It just seems like quite the toss up between the two. I do like the 1/4" output of the G70 transmitter tho...
 
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jacoby75 said:
That IS nit-picky. Even by MY standards! Lol. Mine didn't have a tuner, so I can't comment on that. I will say my favorite thing about it was the battery meter. It was shockingly accurate. I knew how much of a gig I could get out my batteries. I let it run down sometimes, and it would always die within 10min or so of when the meter said they would. It gives you confidence going into a gig. And it also saves time and money on changing batteries that might still have plenty of life left.
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Ended up finding a blemished G70 from MF for $100 less than new. Still has the full warranty too.
I have read that the tuner is considered substandard for users of the G70, so we'll see how it holds up. In the end, latency and useable channels won out over the shure for me.
 
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