Worship Bass Pedalboards

[kirkdickinson]

Most new songs I try to get in NNS (Nashville Numbering System), since CCLI has that now. I wish Song Select would follow suit.

I am confused? CCLI provides the license and their sub-site Song Select has the downloadable songs. Can you further explain this?

 

[Jehos]

As part of our Worship development, we teach a little music theory and the learning of the NNS for all the above reasons everybody has mentioned. Makes music life easier if you can call out a number in any key. Plus, patterns in bass playing helps and I also play a five for those reasons.

As a play-by-ear guy, I love NNS because it makes so much more sense to me. I can follow chord changes that way no problem and transpose to any key. All of our chord charts use the actual chord letters still, and I struggle sometimes with things that should be simpler. I should probably go back and mark up all my PDFs with NNS.

 

[kirkdickinson]

I know it would be a LOT harder and isn't likely to exist, but I need something that does this for actual staff music. If Song Select (CCLI) has the file, then you can do it there, but if you randomly find something on the internet you're out of luck...

Sibelius, Notion 6, Musescore, Forte, and numerous others can easily do this, but you have to download a file in their format, not a pdf or a jpg.

 

[jacoby75]

I used a Tronographic Rusty Box this morning. Not sure if it was working in the mix as well as it does for my covers band

Overdrive/distortion is really hard to use in a worship setting for me. I think (but I'm totally pulling this out of my butt) it depends a great deal on the ensemble size and the sound guy. Maybe on what the guitars are doing. Like, it wouldn't work as well in a 3-piece worship band as it would in a 5-6, where the overdrive would be less noticeable and just help you sit in the mix better. I'm always blown away when I hear isolated bass tracks from popular recordings on Youtube, only to realize that they are distorted. I never knew that listening to them back in the day.

This is one of my favorites:


And this one still blows my mind. You have to skip ahead to about 1:30. The bass sounds so farty, but in the mix, it just sounds fat. It's crazy.

 

[Adamixoye]

Sibelius, Notion 6, Musescore, Forte, and numerous others can easily do this, but you have to download a file in their format, not a pdf or a jpg.

Right - I'm looking for the latter but I assume it doesn't exist.

 

[Drkwdsman]

As a play-by-ear guy, I love NNS because it makes so much more sense to me. I can follow chord changes that way no problem and transpose to any key. All of our chord charts use the actual chord letters still, and I struggle sometimes with things that should be simpler. I should probably go back and mark up all my PDFs with NNS.

Jehos,

When learning a new song, I will look at the chord sheet, and then NNS the whole song while listening to bass parts. While in the car for memorization, I will listen to the song and call out the number, not the chord as they change to help my memory. This helps on practice days and on the way to the church on Sunday for practice.

 

[MynameisMe]

Nice! Keep me posted. I'm curious what you think of it.

So here is my early review of the Empress Compressor. Awesome!
Our Men's Bible Study group had a time of worship and prayer tonight and I played bass along side an acoustic guitar and a cajone. It was a sweet time of fellowship. One of the guys that comes to our study is a bass player at another church and he couldn't wait to try it out after we finished.
It was low volume and mostly slow songs. The compressor made my Rumble 200 come alive!
It showed up today and I used it tonight.
No buyers remorse here! $ 219.00 with free shipping on Amazon.
Sorry I forgot to take pictures.

Edit. I will give a more thorough review in a couple weeks. I'm not on the schedule again until then.

 

[scubaduba]

Nice!

 

[sk8]

Maybe a little to dirty?

Ironically, no. Had it quite low gain but it just wasn't sitting in the mix well. I also use a valve preamp pedal which is quite dirty and that has worked well in the same setting. If I start not liking my tone it normally means it's time to change my strings!

Overdrive/distortion is really hard to use in a worship setting for me. I think (but I'm totally pulling this out of my butt) it depends a great deal on the ensemble size and the sound guy. Maybe on what the guitars are doing. Like, it wouldn't work as well in a 3-piece worship band as it would in a 5-6, where the overdrive would be less noticeable and just help you sit in the mix better. I'm always blown away when I hear isolated bass tracks from popular recordings on Youtube, only to realize that they are distorted. I never knew that listening to them back in the day.

This is one of my favorites:


And this one still blows my mind. You have to skip ahead to about 1:30. The bass sounds so farty, but in the mix, it just sounds fat. It's crazy.

Jamerson is a prime example of a dirty tone that you didn't know was there.

 

[adamaarts]

Latest setup.

Added the accountant (again) and I am keeping it for good. Third time I bought it, it has such a sweet character to it. It really makes a bass with flats/tapes sing. I bought it at the same time as a Cali76 CB and I honestly like the Accountant more.

Also, added another reverb. Had a situation where we needed a piano type intro and had no lead electric or keys that day, so I played it on bass with the Slö. So now the Avalanche Run is dedicated to volume swells and thick repeats, Slö is a thinner sound perfect for picking out notes and staying clear without being muddy.

 

[BassBH]

I am confused? CCLI provides the license and their sub-site Song Select has the downloadable songs. Can you further explain this?

I guess I meant:
"Most new songs I try to get in NNS (Nashville Numbering System), since CCLI has that now. I wish Planning Center would follow suit."

All I know is that my MD and I can't get the NNS versions through Planning Center (which show up in as Song Select songs), but he can get them if he goes to the CCLI website directly. These have a slight different font than the Song Select ones I'm used to from inside Planning Center. I have samples of each, if you'd like.

 

[MascisMan]

Here is my worship board as of late. Has just about everything I need! The tablet is used for Google Docs (charts), Google Play, Klang (our IEM system), Planner, and YouTube. Everything is powered by a Cioks DC7 underneath. The board is a Duo 17 from Temple.

Also underneath I mounted a Rolls PM55P for at home practice. I knocked out the two unused spaces on the Temple module plate to accommodate the two volume knobs of the Rolls. The tablet feeds the Monitor In to provide Planner/YT/GP audio and the Subway (end of chain) feeds the Mic in for my feed. From there the Mic Thru feeds the XLR out on the side of the board to FoH. Works great!

 

[Pedalnetics]

I think I'm finally ready to call my pedalboard complete!

Dual inputs on the side, into the red pedal at the top to select instrument (right switch), back out an always-on circuit to the tuner, back into the red pedal, out to a switchable FX loop (left red-pedal switch) to the HX Effects, then into a custom mixer pedal, back into the red, out to a microthumpinator, and output on the side!

Bottom right blue pedal is a bluetooth page turner I built to control the tablet sheet music.

Top left is a modified Saturnworks pedal, it was an A+B instrument selector. Left footswitch is a mute/unmute for the bass signal, the other footswitch controls an aux input on or off with a pot for volume control. Both signals are outputted if on, so now I can feed audio into it from the tablet and send it out the same signal chain after all effects. Great for keying up music during practice to review something!

And the tablet is hooked up to a USB midi controller and into the HX, so the tablet can send Midi commands to the HX for quick scene/effects changes.

 

[jacoby75]

I think I'm finally ready to call my pedalboard complete!

That's funny. Where have I heard that before? Oh right. I've said it. At least 13 times and counting. Famous last words.

 

[FullTime Tim]

That's funny. Where have I heard that before? Oh right. I've said it. At least 13 times and counting. Famous last words.

I smirked as well. Being done would be no fun at all.

 

[LaklandLaksNADA]

I already added to my board... Two weeks later haha. Liking this current rendition (my alternative to saying it's complete...)

Bass (lakland p bass/Ibanez sr706) > line6 G30 wireless (underneath the board) > Empress compressor > h9 (pre) > Darkglass B3k > zoom ms-70cdr > h9 (post) > darkglass alpha omega ultra > board (or my gk 400rb at home)

All on a pedaltrain nano+ powered by a onespot cs6.

 

[scubaduba]

My board this morning.

 

[MascisMan]

@scubaduba You just keep flaunting that Olympic dont you? That's it, I'm ordering one. Try and stop me.

My Sunday set up this morning

 

[scubaduba]

@MascisMan Between the Stomp and Subway I think you're covered.

 

[MascisMan]

@MascisMan Between the Stomp and Subway I think you're covered.

@scubaduba Oh for sure. Though I am envisioning a possible future of repurposing the Stomp for guitar and going Stomp-less on the bass board.

I also have ideas of downsizing my bass board and so I do like the smaller footprint of the Olympic vs. the Subway (which is rather large for a pedalboard DI).