The Condor looks pretty cool. And the Deco. And..well, I bet that whole rig sounds great.
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Worship Bass Pedalboards
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The Condor looks pretty cool. And the Deco. And..well, I bet that whole rig sounds great.
I end up using the C4 with a setting I made (just published) called "Deep Source 8ve". I took someone's deep source and then changed the octaves down in favor of one octave up on a saw.
I use it when we have something that asks for a lot of sustain to add a little motion with the LFO modulation. I don't use that pedal for much else at the moment, but it hits a real sweet spot with that!
Coming from a large church with a number of bassists in the rotation, almost none of which use a pedal board, my maturing pedal situation is leaning: 1) DCX Bass is always-on first in chain because it makes my P bass sound like a P bass, just better 2) Octave device is getting a LOT more use, 3) and I'm getting more bold with a RAT or Big Muff variant for bigger overdriven choruses.
For this week...... we are doing Worthy Of It All, which has some huge sections. I'm using an Octave device. But..... the OC-2 device is not getting the call. The Line 6 digital EBS Octabass is getting the action this week as it sounds more sub synth deep to me.
On the journey......
Some personal testimony..... I dumped our cable TV two weeks ago - and have replaced that time with watching Bethel and Elevation worship videos and am really noticing a LOT of sub octave synth, bass octavers, and generous amounts of creamy smooth soaring bass saturation on big sections. Almost no modulation effects.
I'm also noticing how all their arrangements are just perfect and everyone (congregation included) is connected together so well. They go from light delicate to full-on arena sub-synth wall of sound with everyone on the same page. The dynamic range reminds me of the Genesis concerts I attended as a youth. And every bass player I watch seems to be gifted, super tasteful, awesome fills, but not flashy. I'm humbled by it all and it makes me want to really work on this stuff and be a better musical servant.
Calling MikoFX: Where is all that sub synth coming from in those live videos? The bass player? Keys? Moog Sub Phatty? Some mystery pedal I've not stumbled upon? Something else? The EHX Bass Micro Synth used to be "the thing" but I'm not so sure it is anymore? I talked to my worship leader for this Sunday about it (a total pedal geek), who is quite encouraging of my emerging pedal explorations, and he mentioned the Moog Phatty.
I'm also noticing how all their arrangements are just perfect and everyone (congregation included) is connected together so well. They go from light delicate to full-on arena sub-synth wall of sound with everyone on the same page. The dynamic range reminds me of the Genesis concerts I attended as a youth. And every bass player I watch seems to be gifted, super tasteful, awesome fills, but not flashy. I'm humbled by it all and it makes me want to really work on this stuff and be a better musical servant.
Calling MikoFX: Where is all that sub synth coming from in those live videos? The bass player? Keys? Moog Sub Phatty? Some mystery pedal I've not stumbled upon? Something else? The EHX Bass Micro Synth used to be "the thing" but I'm not so sure it is anymore? I talked to my worship leader for this Sunday about it (a total pedal geek), who is quite encouraging of my emerging pedal explorations, and he mentioned the Moog Phatty.
I've been eyeballing the Moog Subsequent 25. Not that I'm going to jump into it.
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As cool as it would be to have a Moog, on the 'Names' video, I would use an octave + fuzz (or OD etc) + Freeze pedal to sustain the note. It's cool if it's there on a tour or something, but with our set lists, I'm not sure I can justify bringing and setting up a Moog. Maybe on a worship night....Hmm...Wait, no. I have to stop.
I've talked to some people on the team about using something like the Novation Bass Station, but at this point, I'm more concerned with getting the core tone more fine tuned. The whole system is only about 4 months old and we are all learning the ins and outs. I'll wait until it is more precise before I add anything.
I've talked to some people on the team about using something like the Novation Bass Station, but at this point, I'm more concerned with getting the core tone more fine tuned. The whole system is only about 4 months old and we are all learning the ins and outs. I'll wait until it is more precise before I add anything.
I'd love to be able to double down on keys/synth. I'm curious what some entry level keys that can do that sort of thing would be just to start fiddling and practicing...
I went and saw Brandon Lake this past weekend and noticed that David Curran was playing a Moog Sub Phatty in addition to his bass.
The one truly "always on" pedal is my Super 800 Plus preamp (last pedal in chain); it gives my tone the base edge and sound I always want. My Morley volume pedal is always on, too.
There are two "nearly always on":
- EQ : it gets turned of maybe once or twice a year for a specific song
- comp : it got turned off for one song all of last year (sometimes off in practice)
Always on for me is HX Stomp and SushiBox Finally. This past weekend, I kicked on a Microsynth patch but usually it’s just LA Comp, a bass amp and cab, and Regal to the Finally.
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Sounds good -- I'm planning to use the HX's Octave (clean) for the introduction ambient deep parts. Then go back to the Octave + Rat for the final choruses with the big chord hits. We have a dozen 18" JBL subs that I can light up.
Short answer is all of the above.
It's evolved over the years and it varies from week to week, team to team. The bass itself is effected in those big moments with at least Octave and drive (modified Rat & Aguilar TH AGS), and in many cases fuzz & filter too. As you said, the BMS was big for a while, but more and more I think those sounds are Helix patch driven. If you watch the Livestream you may notice that at times there are two keys players on the platform at the same time. In those instances one is typically playing piano and the other is doing the atmospheric stuff & synth lines.
Personally I love the Moog Sub37, although the Novation Bass Station II is a VERY good entry point. I also like the stuff Behringer has been coming out with. The Moog clones are solid & I have an intense love for the Deepmind 12.
Aside from always on Pedals my most commonly used effect are Octave and Octave + Drive.
I run several always on pedals to sculpt my tone... Right now it's: Broughton SBM, OriginDCX Bass, PettyJohn Lift MKII LTD, Effectrode PC-2A, Empress Compressor Bass, and a light drive (sometimes it's the drive circuit in the Pettyjohn and sometimes it's the JohnK BDII, with the JohnK being the most likely of the two for my starting point).
I may be changing things up again as I am trialing a bunch of different compressors & another round of drives at the moment.
For me it would be, BUT if you're just doing Synth Bass lines in worship it's probably perfect. For most things in life I tend to err towards the survivalist philosophy of 'better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it'.
I watched a couple of YouTube videos of David demo'ing his Phatty. Interesting.
