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Worship Bass Pedalboards

Bryce Vaughn influenced me to buy the pedals I currently use... but now @projectapollo is starting to influence me. In a way, @projectapollo is more dangerous since he buys pedals more frequently. 💀

There's something to be said for flipping pedals and treating their comings and goings as 'rentals' if it helps gain an understanding of what you want/need. But a lot of people who flip tend to be just GASing it up, and I've been wary to follow that path lest I become GASsy.
 
Bryce Vaughn influenced me to buy the pedals I currently use... but now @projectapollo is starting to influence me. In a way, @projectapollo is more dangerous since he buys pedals more frequently. 💀
Thank you! I still love Bryce Vaughn's tone. I'm now retired, kids grown, focused on church, no other expensive hobbies, and have time to explore, flip, and participate here! My big church has really supported my pedal board journey and encourages me so that feeds the tone quest. The board does seem to be converging on a small set of core complimentary pedals.

My GAS "issue" this summer is my desire to get a 5-string back in the collection. I've tried three, sold one. I currently have a 35" active Lakland and the latest passive Fender P5 variant. I like the true Fender P bass tone and their P5 has it.

My big GAS discovery earlier this year, however, was the 30" short scale bass. Every time I play it at church I get great feedback and it really sounds good in the IEMs and is fun to play. I have a JMJ Mustang and really like it. Back story: Our big church WL's rented out a local theater venue earlier this year to do a show of all their original songs. I was in the audience and the bass player (full time music producer) played both a Fender Jazz and a short scale. When he played the Jazz I could not hear any note definition. When he played the short scale I heard every note clearly. That changed my thinking about a short scale.
 
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I am really happy with my Lull P5. It has a fantastic B string. It's 35" scale and the nut is just the tinniest bit wider--though, I can feel the difference over the Fender nut width. The 5 strings all blend in nicely and the B string sounds like the other 4 strings.

I haven't bought a new pedal in a while. I'm not scheduled to play bass for a while. I am working up my drum chops and I'm scheduled for drums next month. It's a lot of fun and I'm excited to serve where I'm needed.
 
I am really happy with my Lull P5. It has a fantastic B string. It's 35" scale and the nut is just the tinniest bit wider--though, I can feel the difference over the Fender nut width. The 5 strings all blend in nicely and the B string sounds like the other 4 strings.

I haven't bought a new pedal in a while. I'm not scheduled to play bass for a while. I am working up my drum chops and I'm scheduled for drums next month. It's a lot of fun and I'm excited to serve where I'm needed.
I am really enjoying the 35" scale. The Lakland I got is active and I'm not at all used to an active bass anymore. It's taking me some adjustment to figure out how to dial things in. Is the Lull active? Advise me on the Lull line-up......
 
My big GAS discovery earlier this year, however, was the 30" short scale bass. Every time I play it at church I get great feedback and it really sounds good in the IEMs and is fun to play. I have a JMJ Mustang and really like it. Back story: Our big church WL's rented out a local theater venue earlier this year to do a show of all their original songs. I was in the audience and the bass player (full time music producer) played both a Fender Jazz and a short scale. When he played the Jazz I could not hear any note definition. When he played the short scale I heard every note clearly. That changed my thinking about a short scale.

I have a medium scale I occasionally enjoy playing with... Yamaha Motion-B...

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Too me... it feels like a short scale as you can see the size difference from my other basses...

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I don't really GAS for new Basses... compared to pedals and tech gadgets.
 
I am really enjoying the 35" scale. The Lakland I got is active and I'm not at all used to an active bass anymore. It's taking me some adjustment to figure out how to dial things in. Is the Lull active? Advise me on the Lull line-up......

My P5 is passive from the factory. My J5 was active, but I replaced the pickups since one was bad. And since I never use the preamp, I made it passive at the same time.
Here are pics (the J5 before it got new pickups)

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These are both 20 years old, made in 2005 with sequential serial numbers.
As far as the line up, they have the typical P and J offerings. They make a few variations with TBird pickups and modern soaps. They also have a few 30" scale models and some signature stuff.
I think a lot of P5s are 1 3/4 at the nut, whereas the Lulls are 1 7/8. So, it's like 1/8 of an inch wider. (I'm not a mathematician, so I may be off on that.) :) That little extra is noticeable though.
You can do 'custom' stuff like 34" scale and 1 3/4 nut width.
Spencer Lull took over after Mike passed. I've only spoken to him a few times, but he's a good guy and you get that 'old friends' vibe from him.
I don't see a whole lot of used P5's for sale (which might be a reflection on how good they are??) It seems like there are more PJs available used.
I haven't figured out the used pricing on them yet. It seems to be all over the place from reasonable to *gulp*.
 
I have not used the MXR Bass Synth at church yet but at home using multitracks to play along with Bethel songs I am more than happy with using the MXR as a replacement for the EHX BMS. Preset #4 is close and I tweaked it to be more Bethel-like. And the Tony Levin octaver preset #5 has replaced my octave pedal. My tentative fall pedal line up:

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Pulp N Peel is a very cool compressor. I love it. DI, as well. This replaces my Empress and/or Cali76.
BassRig '64 is a great Fender amp replacing my Tone Hammer for now. I just dig the authentic bass guitar sound from the '64 BassRig (no cab sim).
The Fuzzistor (placeholder) is really the Broughton Calamity, my favorite drive/fuzz after trying many. Replacing the Kilt.
MXR Bass Synth is replacing the octave pedal and BMS.

I'm eager to hear how other worship boards embrace the MXR Bass Synth as the months go by.
Hi there, had a summer break from playing at church. I play again in two weeks.

Are you getting the BMS sound with your MXR Bass Synth by using preset number four and fuzz?

I get close to the BMS with my MXR Bass Synth and Stone Deaf Rise & Shine, but not quite there. I have not tried my Kilt V2 on full blast/all faders up yet. Maybe that will be the ticket.

Thoughts?
 
Are you getting the BMS sound with your MXR Bass Synth by using preset number four and fuzz?
I get close to the BMS with my MXR Bass Synth and Stone Deaf Rise & Shine, but not quite there. I have not tried my Kilt V2 on full blast/all faders up yet. Maybe that will be the ticket.
I like a tweaked Preset #4 all by itself. It's not exactly the BMS, but may actually be better, IMHO. I think I dial in more unaffected clean, dial the synth filter down a bit, and maybe reduce the sub octave a bit.

I also use Preset #5 variations (Tony Levin) with Fuzz. Preset #5'ish is a great octaver replacement all by itself. The touch of modulation they add just sounds nice in the mix.

Because the sub octave on the MXR Bass Synth is more pure and deeper than the BMS, I think the MXR overall sounds a bit better than the BMS. The addition of the slow chorus effect on the MXR adds a very nice touch which is better than the BMS. I dislike the upper-octave button on the MXR, however, and leave it off.

These are just my impressions.....
 
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I like a tweaked Preset #4 all by itself. It's not exactly the BMS, but may actually be better, IMHO. I think I dial in more unaffected clean, dial the synth filter down a bit, and maybe reduce the sub octave a bit.

I also use Preset #5 variations (Tony Levin) with Fuzz. Preset #5'ish is a great octaver replacement all by itself. The touch of modulation they add just sounds nice in the mix.

Because the sub octave on the MXR Bass Synth is more pure and deeper than the BMS, I think the MXR overall sounds a bit better than the BMS. The addition of the slow chorus effect on the MXR adds a very nice touch which is better than the BMS. I dislike the upper-octave button on the MXR, however, and leave it off.

These are just my impressions.....
I've been using preset #5 a lot. For long sustained notes its perfect. It sits in the mix nicely with the cool modulation happening at the tail end of each sustained note.
 
Good review of the Pulp N Peel, persuaded me to try it. Got latest V 4.5 from Amazon with free return. But I'm keeping it.
That pedal was always intriguing but I never got around to trying it. How does the pulp n peel do with the lower strings without a HPF side chain? Does it overly smother them compared to the higher strings/notes? Does the blend make up for it?
 
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I like a tweaked Preset #4 all by itself. It's not exactly the BMS, but may actually be better, IMHO. I think I dial in more unaffected clean, dial the synth filter down a bit, and maybe reduce the sub octave a bit.

I also use Preset #5 variations (Tony Levin) with Fuzz. Preset #5'ish is a great octaver replacement all by itself. The touch of modulation they add just sounds nice in the mix.

Because the sub octave on the MXR Bass Synth is more pure and deeper than the BMS, I think the MXR overall sounds a bit better than the BMS. The addition of the slow chorus effect on the MXR adds a very nice touch which is better than the BMS. I dislike the upper-octave button on the MXR, however, and leave it off.

These are just my impressions.....
Great impressions! I really appreciate the feedback.
 
That pedal was always intriguing but I never got around to trying it. How does the pulp n peel do with the lower strings without a HPF side chain? Does it overly smother them compared to the higher strings/notes? Does the blend make up for it?
I have not noticed any lower note over-triggering. I was playing it last night using it at the start of the chain, low gain drive turned on, pretty heavy compression and blend at 50/50 and continue to be impressed. Comparing A/B the Tone Hammer AGS and the PNP w/drive was compelling.
 
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The Lull P5 seems like a great choice for me. The Lakland USA P5, on the other hand, seems quite rare.
Do you prefer the Lull P5 or J5 for worship?

I've seen a number of J basses on worship stages, but I feel more comfortable on a P. I haven't brought the J5 to a service, so I can't compare them directly in that setting. But, the P5 gives me everything I want-- so much so that I don't really want to bring my other basses out. It just feels like home. Plus, I really need to send the J5 out to Spencer to refinish the board. It is worn down to bare wood in spots.
 
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