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Would you go boutique or vintage?

New boutique bass or vintage bass?


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There just something about how this looks and sounds that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Feels great. Sounds great. No worries about minor dings and scratches. Got mojo? :bassist:

Peace,
Joe

Yeah, mint vintage P's do look sweet :D
 
I'm always going to be vintage. I just love that classic sound that comes out of older basses, amps, and effects. A lot of newer stuff just sounds too digital/compressed/artificial/whatever. Oldschool until I die.
 
That really is quite the collection. What brand do you have the most of? Several have very similar body shapes.

thank you sir :).

most of my basses are conklins, built by bill conklin in springfield mo. all but 2 of them were built specifically for me (got 2 of them on ebay heh). despite that they're all from the same builder, they all have very different tones, and i tune them differently too. 4 of them have the built in rmc piezos

there's also a ritter roya 7 in there and a lowend jazz 7. the ritter sounds almost like a composite necked instrument, despite that it's all wood - it is a very unique sounding bass. i can not wait to get jens to build me another one, someday when i have some dough lol.

the lowend jazz is exactly what it looks like, a jazz bass, with 7 strings. i love it, it feels every bit like a fender (i have a 77 jazz too, that i haven't played) just with more strings. i definitely want to get another one of these too - a fretless maple board, probably with some kind of pimp sparkle finish, like a red sparkle or purple sparkle.

i'm really lucky in the fact that i was able to purchase these instruments when i did. i got involved with bill conklin a long time ago (first bass in '93, the fretless 7 on the floor, sn #16) just as boutique ERB's were starting to become more common, and i was able to "Grow" my collection as he grew his business (he had been making guitars by then for almost 10 years, but he had just started really going great guns in the boutique bass department, and had just started making 7 string basses regularly the year before). i ended up buying pretty much a bass a year from him for the next 8 years (culminating in the white hollowbody, which was actually a wedding present from my wife).
 
Vintage. Not collectable, pristine vintage. Broken in and well played vintage (proof that
the bass was good enough to get a lot of usage) That says a lot to me. Not some spotless
10.0 sixties find that has never really been played-because it doesnt really play that well.
Proof is in the pudding. Play before you pay-try before you buy.
 
thank you sir :).

most of my basses are conklins, built by bill conklin in springfield mo. all but 2 of them were built specifically for me (got 2 of them on ebay heh). despite that they're all from the same builder, they all have very different tones, and i tune them differently too. 4 of them have the built in rmc piezos

there's also a ritter roya 7 in there and a lowend jazz 7. the ritter sounds almost like a composite necked instrument, despite that it's all wood - it is a very unique sounding bass. i can not wait to get jens to build me another one, someday when i have some dough lol.

the lowend jazz is exactly what it looks like, a jazz bass, with 7 strings. i love it, it feels every bit like a fender (i have a 77 jazz too, that i haven't played) just with more strings. i definitely want to get another one of these too - a fretless maple board, probably with some kind of pimp sparkle finish, like a red sparkle or purple sparkle.

i'm really lucky in the fact that i was able to purchase these instruments when i did. i got involved with bill conklin a long time ago (first bass in '93, the fretless 7 on the floor, sn #16) just as boutique ERB's were starting to become more common, and i was able to "Grow" my collection as he grew his business (he had been making guitars by then for almost 10 years, but he had just started really going great guns in the boutique bass department, and had just started making 7 string basses regularly the year before). i ended up buying pretty much a bass a year from him for the next 8 years (culminating in the white hollowbody, which was actually a wedding present from my wife).

They truly are beauties. I'm going to be playing a 6-stringer for the first time today... Someone who works with my dad is letting me borrow his, it's a douglass (one of Rondo Music's brands) and I'll have to see how that goes...
You have any clips on the 'Tube?
 
Would you rather purchase a brand new Alembic, Roscoe, or Ritter or would you like a thumpin '57 P?
I'm interested in seeing what you guys think, based on your personal preferences and a fairly large budget.

ROSSSSSSSCOEEEEEE!!

Sorry, I got a little excited there..

I will admit, (good) vintage Fenders, etc, definitely have a special thing going on, but I'd never spend that kind of money on one. Many of the current models come close enough in sound and feel to "get the job done", so to speak.. And they do so at a fraction of the price tag.

I voted boutique, because let's face it.. Dollar for dollar, appreciation/depreciation aside, the boutiques are almost always superior when it comes to the criteria that matters: tone (subjective, I know), playability, stability, reliability, etc... AND, even though it's been mentioned earlier, I'll say it again: There are tons of Vintage Fenders/Ricks/Gibsons out there that, when new, wouldn't pass SX's quality control. Even if they were decently put together, some of them just don't sound good. A friend of mine who just dumped $9,500 on a '66 Jazz can attest to that :smug:
 
They truly are beauties. I'm going to be playing a 6-stringer for the first time today... Someone who works with my dad is letting me borrow his, it's a douglass (one of Rondo Music's brands) and I'll have to see how that goes...
You have any clips on the 'Tube?

here's one of our songs on our first cd, with a video one of the guitarists put together as an experiment. in the song, i play my fretless 7 conklin (the one on the floor) but the footage is from a buch of live shows, where i'm using the doubleneck.

 
you know, another thing to remember is that nobody knows what's going to matter to the folks buying instruments and driving up prices in 20 or 30 years.

if you told folks 40 years ago that a fender guitar that cost 100 bucks was going to some day be worth as much as a new car, or more, they would have considered you crazy. the mysterious (and often not-so-mysterious) forces that have driven the vintage market were a product of the culture of the last few decades.

things could very well be different in the future. things could very well change so that in 20 years, the boutique/unique instruments are the ones that appeal to the collectors - the folks that drive the prices up - and the old assembly-line instruments that were once thought of as so appealing will not be thought of as highly, or as highly sought after. the landscape is always changing.
 
here's one of our songs on our first cd, with a video one of the guitarists put together as an experiment. in the song, i play my fretless 7 conklin (the one on the floor) but the footage is from a buch of live shows, where i'm using the doubleneck.



I really like how that was mixed. Modern guitar sounds (without overwhelming bass eq'd in) with an ever-present bass.
Vocals make me think of the child of Hetfield and Geddy (lol)!
 
I'd spend my money on a boutique bass before a vintage bass any day. It's absurd and a waste of my money to spend $5000+ on a used bass made 50 years ago when I can spend that same cash on something new and custom built to my specs.

To each his own, though.

I'd buy a "vintage" bass if it was in good condition and only if I could hold onto it for 20 years, never play it, and sell it for profit. It would only be for investment purposes.
 
bou⋅tique
  /buˈtik/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [boo-teek] Show IPA
–noun
1. a small shop or a small specialty department within a larger store, esp. one that sells fashionable clothes and accessories or a special selection of other merchandise.
2. any small, exclusive business offering customized service: Our advertising is handled by a new Madison Avenue boutique.

Boutique still sounds an odd word to use to describe a bass to me. Just sayin'.

But it's applicable.. ;)
 

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