Would you roll with an Ampeg 4x10 or 8x10?

[alembicguy]

4x10 is smaller but I use an 8x10 because I drive a pickup truck and it is easier for me to tip the 8x10 into my trucks bed than try and dead lift a 98 pound 4x10 into the back.Thats the only reason I am dragging an 8x10 to gigs.

 

[Honk'n_down-low]

Snag a Berg NV610 and compromise

 

[bass'n it]

I feel the 410 is too "light" for the type of music I play..and the 810 is to "heavy" for the type of music I play.... so I use the Ampeg 610 HLF for the gigs an rehearsal.
I've found it to be perfect for not only sound and beefy-ness but also lugging the 610 around is not all that bad.
So you might want to consider the 610 for the porridge thats just rrright!. not to cold.not too hot!


PBass club # 735
Passive club #117
Ampeg club # 436

 

[heath_r_91]

I feel the 410 is too "light" for the type of music I play..and the 810 is to "heavy" for the type of music I play.... so I use the Ampeg 610 HLF for the gigs an rehearsal.
I've found it to be perfect for not only sound and beefy-ness but also lugging the 610 around is not all that bad.
So you might want to consider the 610 for the porridge thats just rrright!. not to cold.not too hot!


PBass club # 735
Passive club #117
Ampeg club # 436

mmhmm

I agree.

 

[akaTRENT]

8x10. nothing sounds like it.
it has slide rails/towel bar/ kickplate wheels. for a reason. I
push it into and out of my suv no issue. all by myself and im skinny.

You never actually lift the cab. you just slide it. but thats my two sense. I know most people think im crazy. I find it harder with 4 x10's because you have to lift them.

Plus there is always someone to help you in the those few times you need and extra hand. why compromise your sound?

 

[akaTRENT]

4x10 is smaller but I use an 8x10 because I drive a pickup truck and it is easier for me to tip the 8x10 into my trucks bed than try and dead lift a 98 pound 4x10 into the back.Thats the only reason I am dragging an 8x10 to gigs.

+1 on this. i feel the exact same way.
slide rails.

 

[xshawnxearthx]

What does the "HLF" stand for?

Have Luck Finding replacement speakers


if it was me i'd never buy an hlf cab again. if i had to decide between a regular 410 AND AN 810. 810 all the way. or two 410s.

 

[TheDialog]

810 810 810
Nothing bumps like an 810
I have 3...you can find them for the same price used on craigslist as the 410s

 

[AlstottMVP2]

What's the rest of the band using?! Marshall Full Stacks or Fender Deluxe's? What type of music is it?

guitarist has a fender 212.

classic rock in big bars.

aerosmith, journey, and all that kinda stuff.

 

[Gearhead17]

I dont know what this means. Please help

If I"m running a B2Re now, then later a SVT4PRO...

what's the difference between 4 and 8 ohms? More volume/power?

I like the one with the wheels, but I don't want to get the wrong one. thanks!!

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=166225
Read for information on ohms.

Without getting too technical - sealed cabs have a tighter more focused sound while ported cabs seem to have a looser sound overall. Both cabs can sound great in any situation, but it is up to you to decide which one makes you happy. Download the manuals for the Ampeg heads you have and you can figure out how many speakers you can actually run.

 

[Eminor3rd]

A 115 is wasted with an HLF. The HLF goes way lower than most 115's and is way louder than any 115. The 115 is mighty, but it can't compete in that environment. Also, to the OP, a 410HLF is very much an acquired taste. I hate them because they're very muddy for my purposes, but some people love them because they're muddy.

Before last year, I spent the previous 10 years using a 410. I liked it OK but was never really enthused about them. This past year I've used several different rigs. But this past weekend I decided to go back to an 810 because there's just no substitute for that feeling. You could do two 410's and accomplish pretty much the same thing, but if you have a vehicle long enough to fit the 810 and a decent handtruck, I think you'll find that it's probably easier to move an 810 than two 410's. And really, a single 410 isn't all that much easier to move IMHO. Most weigh 100 lbs. or more and an 810 is right around 165 lbs.

Agreed 100%. However, my solution would be to get a 4x10, but not an Ampeg.

 

[RayO5421]

I'd say 410 for bars n clubs, 810 if you plan on being a touring musician. Not that touring musicians don't use
410s, it helps to have the extra volume/badassness with the 810.

Edit: I don't know if you'd need an 810 if your guitar player only has a 212, my Avatar 410 keeps up just fine with my guitar player's combo amp.

 

[luvpbass]

I you have your heart set on the "Fridge" sound, consider using two Ampeg classics (or any other brand). It will give the advantage of two hf horns, look just as impressive and be easier to move in and out of vehicles or up steps.

But after years of gigging with all sorts of gear, here's what works for me:

4x10 Ampeg classic, which I take for most bar/club gigs.

1x15 Ashdown that I add for larger halls or outdoors.

2x10 SWR cabinet for lower volume rehearsals, acoustic gigs in coffee shops, churches, etc.

The speaker brands have changed over the years depending on the deals I find, but the configuration stays the same.

For really low volume or recording, I grab a sweet sounding Trace Elliot commando 100w 1x12, or a Fender 25b 1x10 for the living room.

 

[JimmyM]

Agreed 100%. However, my solution would be to get a 4x10, but not an Ampeg.

Ya, I'm not as big on Ampeg cabs as I used to be. They've gone too far in the low end/hi power thing and forgot about the rest of the frequencies. But if you can find Ampeg SVT cabs from the 90's or before, they're pretty sweet cabs.

 

[Flabass]

My Ampeg 4x10 HLF with my Ampeg SVT3 Pro doesn't sound "muddy." Crank that horn up and adjust your eq and you can cut through those guitars. Not that easy to move if you have a long way to roll it. But I love mine.

 

[Alexander]

810 all the way - I'm in the "HLF is WAY too muddy crowd". Plus, I agree it is easier to move with the right vehicle - I could move the 810 in and about easier than my 53lb 410 (without wheels...). Need help getting it on\off stage usually, but can handle the rest by myself.

 

[JimmyM]

My Ampeg 4x10 HLF with my Ampeg SVT3 Pro doesn't sound "muddy." Crank that horn up and adjust your eq and you can cut through those guitars. Not that easy to move if you have a long way to roll it. But I love mine.

I know a lot of people on here who dearly love their 410HLF's. If you love it, rock it and rock it hard. I'm just not one of them.

 

[TheBassPreacher]

4x10 is smaller but I use an 8x10 because I drive a pickup truck and it is easier for me to tip the 8x10 into my trucks bed than try and dead lift a 98 pound 4x10 into the back.Thats the only reason I am dragging an 8x10 to gigs.

+2... like Trent said as well. Though I am a big guy, it's easier for me to tilt back a 8x10 than to have to bend over and tilt back a smaller cab. It's a whole lot easier to just tip back a 8x10 into the back of my suv instead of having to lift up a 4x10. That being said I'm using a 4x10 right now because an 8x10 would just be too loud for most of the places I'm playing right now and because of the space it takes up... at least the 4x10 I have has 4 casters instead of the tilt back.

 

[JimmyM]

+2... like Trent said as well. Though I am a big guy, it's easier for me to tilt back a 8x10 than to have to bend over and tilt back a smaller cab. It's a whole lot easier to just tip back a 8x10 into the back of my suv instead of having to lift up a 4x10. That being said I'm using a 4x10 right now because an 8x10 would just be too loud for most of the places I'm playing right now and because of the space it takes up... at least the 4x10 I have has 4 casters instead of the tilt back.

Dude, nobody on this board plays rock and roll as quiet as I do, and I'm using an 810 again. It doesn't have to be driven hard to sound great. And unless you're talking about space in your vehicle, it takes up no more floor space onstage than a 410. Not trying to talk you out of using a 410, but those aren't very compelling reasons to not use your fridge. Fridges are fun!

 

[Bassmec]

Dude, nobody on this board plays rock and roll as quiet as I do, and I'm using an 810 again. It doesn't have to be driven hard to sound great. And unless you're talking about space in your vehicle, it takes up no more floor space onstage than a 410. Not trying to talk you out of using a 410, but those aren't very compelling reasons to not use your fridge. Fridges are fun!

I don't find my 8 X 10 any worse to move than my 2 115's
there is like most Bass things a little bit of technique required
but once mastered its easy.
One thing to get is a bit of rope and some cardboard or better still a corrugated plastic real estate sign to slide it on when putting it in the truck, car or on stage. I hardly ever have to actually lift it.!
Just tip it back and roll with it.