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Yamaha Basses

RocketMusic

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I've got a side hustle locally where I rent orchestra instruments (violin, viola, cello, bass) to the parents of kids who participate in a fantastic program called [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] here at VA Tech in Blacksburg. Young kids from 3rd grade on up get 2 hours of instruction each week for a very small fee, and the college students who intend to become music teachers once they graduate get a lot of teaching experience while they're still in college. And the music professors who run the program have something very meaningful to do outside of just teaching their college classes. It's a beautiful thing all around, the proverbial win-win-win sort of situation. Win-win-win-win if you include my small part in the proceedings.

A new opportunity has recently presented itself. The String Project folks here in Blacksburg are starting an acoustic guitar version of this program in the fall, and they've asked me to gear up to handle rentals for this. So I'm faced with having to buy 30+ 3/4 size acoustic guitars for kiddos, plus probably a decent amount of full size instruments for any parents who might also participate. We used to be a Yamaha dealer years ago, so their JR1 and JR2 models jumped to mind when I first heard about this.

Anytime you're dealing with a big brand like this, it's not as simple as asking "can you sell me 30-40 3/4 size guitars?". There's a minimum buy-in this year, there's a buy-in next year, and there's a buy-in every year after that. Imagine committing yourself to buying 40-50 instruments pretty much every year. And the buying is the easy part, it's really the SELLING of that many instruments every year that is the issue. :) No small feat when you've got the Sweetwaters of the world selling the same stuff we're talking about.

So I've got to ask myself, how much Yamaha stuff do I think I can manage to sell in the coming years outside of these 30-40 3/4 size guitars that I'll buy once and then use for the forseeable future. I won't need another 40-50 instruments next year unless I'm selling that many.

Looking through Yamaha's price list, I see that they offer a bunch of bass guitar models, ranging from $250-$3020 for their production models, and $3199.99-$3799.99 for the signature models. In G&L terms, that's like their Tribute, BTO and Custom Shop product lines.

So I'm shooting out a question to all of TB. Is anyone rabid for Yamaha basses? And if so, are you looking at the lower end, the middle range or the signature basses?

The same sort of thing applies to Yamaha guitars, so please also chime in if you're a fan of any of those.

Thanks for any input!
Greg
 
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And FWIW - when we carried Yamaha, it was our primary acoustic guitar offering for local sales. It was the proverbial "for the price, wow!" sort of thing. 6-8 years ago, a $300 Yamaha acoustic guitar was really quite nice: solid top, nice tuners. They played great, sounded great and stayed in tune. Pretty much the perfect instrument for a step up from beginner status.

And we hit pretty much every price point they offered, and every step up came with commensurate and noticeable improvements. Their high-end Yairi stuff was wonderful, fit for even the cork sniffers among us. Oops - Yairi was Alvarez. Doh!
 
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I’ve only owned one Yamaha bass over the years but I’ve played a bunch and my impression is this: Their entry-level instruments are very solid once set up well, albeit not particularly inspiring. They’re comparable to Ibanez basses in the same price point, IMO, and by that I mean you could definitely play a gig with one if you needed to.

Their mid-range stuff is, IMO, a little below Ibanez in terms of features but equal in quality. I’d put it in the G&L Tribute ballpark.

Their top line stuff is very, very nice, indeed.

That’s just my take on their product line as viewed from an outsider. I think the overall quality is quite good in every price range.
 
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I’ve only owned one Yamaha bass over the years but I’ve played a bunch and my impression is this: Their entry-level instruments are very solid once set up well, albeit not particularly inspiring. They’re comparable to Ibanez basses in the same price point, IMO, and by that I mean you could definitely play a gig with one if you needed to.

Their mid-range stuff is, IMO, a little below Ibanez in terms of features but equal in quality. I’d put it in the G&L Tribute ballpark.

Their top line stuff is very, very nice, indeed.

That’s just my take on their product line as viewed from an outsider. I think the overall quality is quite good in every price range.

Fantastic, thanks for your input!
 
I’m a huge fan of the current line of Broadbasses, and I own both a BB734A and BB735A that I expect to keep for life. I didn’t care for the aesthetics right up until I very suddenly did (the same thing happened with Spectors with the NS body shape), so that’s something to consider. Yamaha basses (and guitars and pianos) enjoy almost universal respect on this forum, particularly in terms of what a player gets for what they pay, and the BBs seem like the only basses with a PJ pickup configuration that even PJ haters can’t hate.
 
And FWIW - when we carried Yamaha, it was our primary acoustic guitar offering for local sales. It was the proverbial "for the price, wow!" sort of thing. 6-8 years ago, a $300 Yamaha acoustic guitar was really quite nice: solid top, nice tuners. They played great, sounded great and stayed in tune. Pretty much the perfect instrument for a step up from beginner status.

And we hit pretty much every price point they offered, and every step up came with commensurate and noticeable improvements. Their high-end Yairi stuff was wonderful, fit for even the cork sniffers among us. Oops - Yairi was Alvarez. Doh!
This all still seems true of Yamaha instruments generally (except for the Yairi part :laugh:)
 
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I’m a huge fan of the current line of Broadbasses, and I own both a BB734A and BB735A that I expect to keep for life. I didn’t care for the aesthetics right up until I very suddenly did (the same thing happened with Spectors with the NS body shape), so that’s something to consider. Yamaha basses (and guitars and pianos) enjoy almost universal respect on this forum, particularly in terms of what a player gets for what they pay, and the BBs seem like the only basses with a PJ pickup configuration that even PJ haters can’t hate.

This all still seems true of Yamaha instruments generally (except for the Yairi part :laugh:)

Thanks for the reply!
 
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The BB234 and BB434 are excellent basses for the money. I have no experience with the active EQ BB basses but they have their fans for sure.

The BBP MIJ BB Basses are awesome. My only gripe is they tend to be heavy--9-10 pounds.

The Nathan East 5 is fantastic, and the EQ is one of the best bass guitar EQs ever.

Awesome, thanks!
 
I'm not too experienced with Yamaha basses, but I do have a couple of their guitars(so I guess I'm not directly answering your question). I agree with you that their inexpensive guitars are great for the money. i have an NTX700, and a Silent guitar. The NTX is amazing for the money- I keep it at my grand kids house, and play it with them over there. It has been brutally "beta tested" by them, and is none the worse for wear. Probably the best value for the dollar of any instrument I've owned.The Silent guitar is perfect for practice in my 1 bedroom condo
The Yamaha basses I've played have been quite good-I've played some of the high-end ones and they are really high-quality, just a bit rich for my blood. I'd love to have a Nathan East!
Hope this is helpful.
 
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I'm not too experienced with Yamaha basses, but I do have a couple of their guitars(so I guess I'm not directly answering your question). I agree with you that their inexpensive guitars are great for the money. i have an NTX700, and a Silent guitar. The NTX is amazing for the money- I keep it at my grand kids house, and play it with them over there. It has been brutally "beta tested" by them, and is none the worse for wear. Probably the best value for the dollar of any instrument I've owned.The Silent guitar is perfect for practice in my 1 bedroom condo
The Yamaha basses I've played have been quite good-I've played some of the high-end ones and they are really high-quality, just a bit rich for my blood. I'd love to have a Nathan East!
Hope this is helpful.

Every bit of input helps, so thanks!
 
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FWIW - my current plan of action is this. I need to order 52 instruments to qualify for Yamaha's best pricing, and the lion's share of that will be inexpensive acoustic guitars to satisfy my local rental pool needs. On top of that, I plan to order 1 of each of the top-of-the-line BB Pro basses and RevStar Pro guitars for local and online sales. So that's two 4-strings, two 5-strings, and four guitars.

Next year, when I won't need to buy so many inexpensive acoustic guitars, I'll probably switch to a different buying program that offers the same pricing at lower quantities while being more focused on the higher end guitar and bass products. I'll use that program to start filling in the less expensive models like the BB734/735, etc. and maybe branch into the Pacifica guitars and TRB basses.
 
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I had a TRBX604. Beautifully made, handsome, comfortable and light, but a very bland instrument, and that's the consensus opinion. Think the 734 etc a much much better bit of stock for a serious retailer.

I think yamaha refresh ranges every 7 years, so you might want to check that out and be sure nothings about to get superceded. iirc the BB thread is on top of those numbers.
 
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I had a TRBX604. Beautifully made, handsome, comfortable and light, but a very bland instrument, and that's the consensus opinion. Think the 734 etc a much much better bit of stock for a serious retailer.

A few years ago, I considered a TRBX505, and I had exactly the same impression. It had fantastic quality, playability, and feel, but the tone, while perfectly decent, wasn't terribly inspiring. (My reference for five-string bass tone is a G&L M-2500 though, so take that FWIW.)

I have been consistently impressed with the BB lineup, regardless of price. Even the lower end models have great tone and playability IMO, though I haven't played one in awhile to know how they compare to current G&L Tribute, Ibanez, etc.

The guitars are impressive too. I'm considering a hardtail guitar to complement my Strat and G&L Legacy HSS (thanks Greg!), and I recently tried a mid-range Yamaha Pacifica with hardtail and H/P-90 pickups. It was light, and sounded fantastic with great playability. (I love the flat fretboards Yamaha typically uses, on both guitars and basses.) I was extremely impressed, and was tempted to buy it on the spot. With that, small sample size though it is, I'm thinking the Pacifica guitars might provide the same great value proposition as some of the BB basses.

It was this model:

Yamaha PAC611HFM Pacifica - Light Amber Burst
 
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A few years ago, I considered a TRBX505, and I had exactly the same impression. It had fantastic quality, playability, and feel, but the tone, while perfectly decent, wasn't terribly inspiring. (My reference for five-string bass tone is a G&L M-2500 though, so take that FWIW.)

I have been consistently impressed with the BB lineup, regardless of price. Even the lower end models have great tone and playability IMO, though I haven't played one in awhile to know how they compare to current G&L Tribute, Ibanez, etc.

The guitars are impressive too. I'm considering a hardtail guitar to complement my Strat and G&L Legacy HSS (thanks Greg!), and I recently tried a mid-range Yamaha Pacifica with hardtail and H/P-90 pickups. It was light, and sounded fantastic with great playability. (I love the flat fretboards Yamaha typically uses, on both guitars and basses.) I was extremely impressed, and was tempted to buy it on the spot. With that, small sample size though it is, I'm thinking the Pacifica guitars might provide the same great value proposition as some of the BB basses.

It was this model:

Yamaha PAC611HFM Pacifica - Light Amber Burst

Awesome, that's all great to hear! Thanks.
 
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Here’s the first tangible sign that I’ve successfully resurrected my Yamaha dealership!!

It’s a bit anticlimactic. This first shipment is 8 acoustic guitars and 38 empty guitar cases. All part of my rental pool for the new guitar program that will be happening this coming school year. This is all of the cases, but 30 more acoustic guitars are on backorder.

I ended up asking to have my rental pool stuff delivered ASAP, and I put the electric stuff (which will be for my retail purposes) off until later in August.

I’ve avoided the higher end electric basses and guitars for now, so it’ll be the middle range stuff that will arrive later in August (BB73A, BB75A, RSS20, RSS20T). Come January, I’ll have to re-up with Yamaha with another sizable order, and that’s when I’ll get after the higher end stuff, BBP34, etc. I might splurge and get a Nathan East model, not sure yet.

Anyways, this is all rather exciting!!

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Yamaha has shipped me some electric guitars and basses, so I've started populating my website with the details. The guitar listings are done (at least for those models that have shipped), but the bass item is still a work in progress. Tomorrow!

You can find them by navigating my website's menu, but here are some links that will take you to the right place:

Yamaha Basses
Yamaha Guitars

I expect this first shipment of electric stuff to arrive sometime this week, and I've got more basses and guitars on order. 4-strings, different series, etc.

Baby steps!