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Double Bass YOU - on youtube (DB forum thread)

#941
damonsmith said:
Liking it and being dependent on it are two different things. A looping solo and true solo concert are also two different things. Looping solo sets are basically artificial duos and you never really get to find out what you can actually do on your own. Learning how to imply the other elements is more a valuable skill.
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you’re not wrong - a delicate rope to tight-walk, for sure. As the guy behind the pedal, I certainly tire of f’n with it and view it as a drag on my creative magic flow, but it is undeniably a neat party trick when I can pull it off. I seriously doubt I would/could ever make a whole set of looping work. Every time I revisit the pedal, I keep hoping that it starts to happen more “effortlessly”, but tbh it always feels forced and kinda lame for exactly the reasons Damon mentioned. BUT, I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again: As a horn player, I’d rather play over a loop of myself than perform with a play-along track (cringe!). The amount of players I know who make their careers out of using Aebersold tracks with Jamie’s count-in edited out is embarrassing for the genre (IMHO, of course).

I think next I’m going to try more what Michael Moore’s been doing and pre-record a piano track and play bass to it — if only for an exercise.
 
#942
JBarz said:
you’re not wrong - a delicate rope to tight-walk, for sure. As the guy behind the pedal, I certainly tire of f’n with it and view it as a drag on my creative magic flow, but it is undeniably a neat party trick when I can pull it off. I seriously doubt I would/could ever make a whole set of looping work. Every time I revisit the pedal, I keep hoping that it starts to happen more “effortlessly”, but tbh it always feels forced and kinda lame for exactly the reasons Damon mentioned. BUT, I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again: As a horn player, I’d rather play over a loop of myself than perform with a play-along track (cringe!). The amount of players I know who make their careers out of using Aebersold tracks with Jamie’s count-in edited out is embarrassing for the genre (IMHO, of course).

I think next I’m going to try more what Michael Moore’s been doing and pre-record a piano track and play bass to it — if only for an exercise.
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If you imagine both the great Dave Holland and great Steve Lacy solos, since you are singing already, you can use a bar or two of solo voice to switch instruments.
As you might guess, delay pedals are the bugaboo of the experimental music community - so take my opinions with a grain of salt! My good friend says, "Anything worth hearing over and over is worth playing over and over".
 
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damonsmith said:
Liking it and being dependent on it are two different things. A looping solo and true solo concert are also two different things. Looping solo sets are basically artificial duos and you never really get to find out what you can actually do on your own. Learning how to imply the other elements is more a valuable skill.
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I didn’t realize this was a test, I guess. I think Jeremy could have soloed perfectly well without the loop, but regardless, I still like the loop!
 
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JBarz said:
you’re not wrong - a delicate rope to tight-walk, for sure. As the guy behind the pedal, I certainly tire of f’n with it and view it as a drag on my creative magic flow, but it is undeniably a neat party trick when I can pull it off. I seriously doubt I would/could ever make a whole set of looping work. Every time I revisit the pedal, I keep hoping that it starts to happen more “effortlessly”, but tbh it always feels forced and kinda lame for exactly the reasons Damon mentioned. BUT, I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again: As a horn player, I’d rather play over a loop of myself than perform with a play-along track (cringe!). The amount of players I know who make their careers out of using Aebersold tracks with Jamie’s count-in edited out is embarrassing for the genre (IMHO, of course).

I think next I’m going to try more what Michael Moore’s been doing and pre-record a piano track and play bass to it — if only for an exercise.
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A common problem with the "lay down the accompaniment, then solo over the loop" thing is forcing the audience to listen to the accompaniment, sans melody or solo. I've heard it more than once, and it's boring.

You have solved the problem by singing the melody. Excellent work!
 
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not a bass, but a bass viol. just got the treble gamba... one week ago today?

I do really like how the viol family shares tuning, just changes by octave. from bass to treble at least. tenor is in the middle, alto rarely gets used but is a step higher than that. even a D violone would be the same tuning, an octave deeper than the bass viol.

this makes switching really, really easy.
 
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