there's no perpetual motion machines or perfect speaker cabs on this planet, so all cabs are flawed.
I know what you mean though
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Your Opinion on 8x10's
- Thread starter EvolLove13
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there's no perpetual motion machines or perfect speaker cabs on this planet, so all cabs are flawed.
I know what you mean though
I'd like to see them start using this one more often:
They use it for the "Heritage" badge. I think it would look super cool done up as a badge.
What the hell is that?
those are my two rigs- I have two HD 112s. The 810 would slay it with any amp. Love my HDs though
I play a lamptable rig. It does what I need done and sounds good doing it. It's no 810, but it isn't supposed to be.
Necessary evil for me. For a couple decades I avoided 810. But once I got one, I almost can't do without. Sure there are a few clubs where I can use my smaller 212 or 215 cabs, but its only very few. We are loud, heavy and detuned, and there's no substitute.
My band always helps to load it because even though they say its heavy, they also agree it sounds so good.
My band always helps to load it because even though they say its heavy, they also agree it sounds so good.
this is the sort of thinking that I don't understand. If a piece of gear gets me the sound I want, then I would never consider it flawed.
+1
Sure, there are newer cabinet designs that do a great job of achieving a full-range frequency response. They even do it in smaller and lighter packages. However, the Ampeg 810 provides a certain, inherent tonal characteristic that just sounds great! I've yet to hear any other cabinet, new or old, that can create the same tone and feel as the Ampeg 810. My line of thinking is that old technology isn't necessarily "flawed", it just serves different applications....think tube vs. SS.
Man, you guys.... 
I never claimed any defiance of the basic laws of physics.
And yeah, placing two 10's running fullrange side-by-side IS a flawed design; it murders the dispersion of upper-mids and highs. I NEVER said it doesn't sound good. On the contrary, many people (myself included) consider it to set the benchmark for rock bass tone.
I am NOT a "hi-fi" tones kind of guy. I like character to my tone. And a mildly attenuated low-end with very pronounced midrange, plus a gentle upper frequency roll-off IS what I like most of the time.
The only reason I'm not already getting my hands on a 810 is that I think a 2x15 or two 1x15 is going to suit me better for now. Plus, I want to build my own speaker.
I never claimed any defiance of the basic laws of physics.
And yeah, placing two 10's running fullrange side-by-side IS a flawed design; it murders the dispersion of upper-mids and highs. I NEVER said it doesn't sound good. On the contrary, many people (myself included) consider it to set the benchmark for rock bass tone.
I am NOT a "hi-fi" tones kind of guy. I like character to my tone. And a mildly attenuated low-end with very pronounced midrange, plus a gentle upper frequency roll-off IS what I like most of the time.
The only reason I'm not already getting my hands on a 810 is that I think a 2x15 or two 1x15 is going to suit me better for now. Plus, I want to build my own speaker.
Plus, I want to build my own speaker.
Yeah, B810s are spendy. $800 for 8 of 'em when you can get the cab used with all 8 original drivers for only $500.
I have an ampeg 810e and I do love it so very much and it looks awesome on stage but I really hate lugging it around. I'm in the process of building 2 fearful 15/6s so I have a more versatile set up. Stack when I need it and half when I don't and I save a lot of pain in my back in the process.
But if you really want the 810 I would go with ampeg. Then re- tolex it to a different color cuz bass players are sexy.
But if you really want the 810 I would go with ampeg. Then re- tolex it to a different color cuz bass players are sexy.
The ultimate rock bass rig is an Ampeg SVTCL(or SVT2)/810e. You see this rig on more stages than any other. I have one of these rigs and just picked up another U.S.A. made 810e with some rough tolex but otherwise in excellent working condition, an 8 space SKB rack case and an old Behringer amp I'm letting a kid I know use for all of $400.00.
The great thing about these cabs is that they sound terrific when combined with a tube SVT amp and there are lots of them for sale out there U..S. made, for pretty cheap as people gravitate to boutique cabs more and more. It's the sound you hear on hundreds of live and studio albums. I'm 55 and I haul one of these rigs around because I love it. Do it, it'll give you another reason to stay in shape. You won't regret it.
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I'm truly not trying to be negative, but there were a ton of innovators in rock music history who experimented and helped push bass amp tech further
John Entwistle
Phil Lesh
Anthony Jackson
That's just a few iconic players who didn't over romanticize the tried and true systems of the day and they all pushed bass playing/tone to new heights.
If you love Ampeg 810's, then get out there and have some fun, because you're done shopping! But there is no 'best' for everyone and I happen to think we've come a long way in the past 30 years...I never would've dreamed as a kid that you could play a huge room and sound fantastic with a rig that'll fit in a compact car...to me that's a very good thing
John Entwistle
Phil Lesh
Anthony Jackson
That's just a few iconic players who didn't over romanticize the tried and true systems of the day and they all pushed bass playing/tone to new heights.
If you love Ampeg 810's, then get out there and have some fun, because you're done shopping! But there is no 'best' for everyone and I happen to think we've come a long way in the past 30 years...I never would've dreamed as a kid that you could play a huge room and sound fantastic with a rig that'll fit in a compact car...to me that's a very good thing
Right, because everywhere you go, the one rig you always see on rock stages across the world is a Mesa SS amp into a Mesa 810.
+1
I'm truly not trying to be negative, but there were a ton of innovators in rock music history who experimented and helped push bass amp tech further
John Entwistle
Phil Lesh
Anthony Jackson
That's just a few iconic players who didn't over romanticize the tried and true systems of the day and they all pushed bass playing/tone to new heights.
If you love Ampeg 810's, then get out there and have some fun, because you're done shopping! But there is no 'best' for everyone and I happen to think we've come a long way in the past 30 years...I never would've dreamed as a kid that you could play a huge room and sound fantastic with a rig that'll fit in a compact car...to me that's a very good thing
Right, because everywhere you go, the one rig you always see on rock stages across the world is a Mesa SS amp into a Mesa 810.
Well, the Ampeg rig is cheaper, so there is that - and that Mesa head is one of the tubiest sounding *hybrids* ever made - besides being ALOT more reliable than an SVT-7Pro... Lastly, you are aware that "ultimate" and "most common" don't mean the same thing, right???
- georgestrings
+1 and it can be a different rig for different people. IMHO this is pretty fantastic for "rock tone".
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+1 You see lots of honda civics on the road. Doesnt mean its everyones ultimate vehicle.
I'm truly not trying to be negative, but there were a ton of innovators in rock music history who experimented and helped push bass amp tech further
John Entwistle
Phil Lesh
Anthony Jackson
That's just a few iconic players who didn't over romanticize the tried and true systems of the day and they all pushed bass playing/tone to new heights.
If you love Ampeg 810's, then get out there and have some fun, because you're done shopping! But there is no 'best' for everyone and I happen to think we've come a long way in the past 30 years...I never would've dreamed as a kid that you could play a huge room and sound fantastic with a rig that'll fit in a compact car...to me that's a very good thing
+1 to this.
Right, because everywhere you go, the one rig you always see on rock stages across the world is a Mesa SS amp into a Mesa 810.
Entwhisle is one of my rock bass heroes. He really pushed the envelope turning "bass technique" into "bass guitar", and pushed bass tech as well, with massive racks and custom made gear. I'm talking about off the rack gear.
Another brilliant bassist Pino Palladino has taken over John's bass duties with The Who. What does he choose as his stage amp rig?
