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Your Opinion on 8x10's

#241
georgestrings said:
Well, the Ampeg rig is cheaper, so there is that - and that Mesa head is one of the tubiest sounding *hybrids* ever made - besides being ALOT more reliable than an SVT-7Pro... Lastly, you are aware that "ultimate" and "most common" don't mean the same thing, right???


- georgestrings
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Yeah, a Fender P bass or J bass may not be the ultimate bass. But they are the choice of more players than any others, including the legends played them. Not because there wasn't and isn't more advanced technology available, but because there is a genius to the simplicity of the design that frees the player to focus on the music.

Same is true of an SVTCL/810.
 
#242
CL400Peavey said:
+1 and it can be a different rig for different people. IMHO this is pretty fantastic for "rock tone".

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+1 You see lots of honda civics on the road. Doesnt mean its everyones ultimate vehicle.



+1 to this.
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Exactly - lovin' that Sterling 5 HS, still - awesome looking bass!!! Although the BFR SR 5 roasted/ebony I had sure was a beauty, the Sterling 5 HS works way better for me:

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- georgestrings
 
#243
ev rodriguez said:
Yeah, a Fender P bass or J bass may not be the ultimate bass. But they are the choice of more players than any others, including the legends played them. Not because there wasn't and isn't more advanced technology available, but because there is a genius to the simplicity of the design that frees the player to focus on the music.

Same is true of an SVTCL/810.
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You're right. Everyone should be playing a SVT-CL and 810e, but they better be using passive P-basses, and those basses damn well better have flats and a tort pick guard on them.

Hear that George? we have been doing it wrong... :confused:
 
#245
Hey
I've seen Mesa listed and of course Ampeg and Yorkville/traynor all of which will do the job. You pay for the Mesa, but you get 'that' tone, that lovely lovely tone. It seems some of the Ampegs are sketchy depending on year and locale of manufacture, however it's 'the' classic rock sound, chosen carefully you'll have no regrets. The Yorkville stuff, around here anyway, has a price point that's hard to disagree with, and sonically they've come a LONG way from the early days, that and it's near indestructability. You could look into cabs featuring that neodyniam(?) magnet stuff as well they weigh a lot less than standard but you will pay handsomely for the privilege
Without descending into flame as an option you could go with 2 4X10's, and no they don't quite sound like the full 8X10 for some reason, BUT, you could choose two different companies for a unique tone grouping, Mesa +Trace as an example. It also would allow for taking a smaller rig should the need arise.
 
#246
CL400Peavey said:
You're right. Everyone should be playing a SVT-CL and 810e, but they better be using passive P-basses, and those basses damn well better have flats and a tort pick guard on them.

Hear that George? we have been doing it wrong... :confused:
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Hahaha - good one... Don't get me wrong, I've gigged an SVT/810e rig many a time, and they've always got the job done - but my M-pulse 600/PH810 rig will get WAY louder, WAY deeper, and is much clearer voiced - besides having a killer sounding DI...

Oh, and I'm on board with the passive P bass/tort thing - but flats are a no go for me...


- georgestrings
 
#247
CL400Peavey said:
I really dig my Sterling 5 HS. I have flats on my Ray now, so I get a lot of different sounds out of my gear.
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Yeah, they're great - I'm mainly gigging mine and a SUB5 for my 5er needs, and going back and forth between P Basses and Jazz basses in series for my 4 string needs... I could picture either a Stingray 5 Classic or a Sadowsky 5er in my future, though...


- georgestrings
 
#248
CL400Peavey said:
You're right. Everyone should be playing a SVT-CL and 810e, but they better be using passive P-basses, and those basses damn well better have flats and a tort pick guard on them.

Hear that George? we have been doing it wrong... :confused:
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Funny thing, Leo Fender played a huge role in the design of Music Man and consequently their derivative. Sterling. Look up Sterling bass in Wikipedia and one of the first pics you see is Tony Levin playing a stingray 5 (through an SVT/810, btw).

I'm not saying there is never room for progress, I'm just saying that its important to realize that it takes A LOT to really improve upon the gear that has become iconic. Btw I am up to 16 active and passive, various scales, fretless and fretted basses, only 4 of which are Fenders.
I am partial to Rotosounds for my rounds and TI's for my flats.
I do admit a real penchant for tortoise shell pick guards on the Fenders though, you got me there.
 
#249
ev rodriguez said:
Funny thing, Leo Fender played a huge role in the design of Music Man and consequently their derivative. Sterling. Look up Sterling bass in Wikipedia and one of the first pics you see is Tony Levin playing a stingray 5 (through an SVT/810, btw).

I'm not saying there is never room for progress, I'm just saying that its important to realize that it takes A LOT to really improve upon the gear that has become iconic. Btw I am up to 16 active and passive, various scales, fretless and fretted basses, only 4 of which are Fenders.
I am partial to Rotosounds for my rounds and TI's for my flats.
I do admit a real penchant for tortoise shell pick guards on the Fenders though, you got me there.
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Missing. The. Point.
 
#250
I'm using an Ampeg 810 on a weekly basis at the jam space I use. There's also one at a local metal club as permanent backline that I've played through a dozen times. It's not even about how loud it can get (using an Orange TB500) cause I never need to go over 3 on the volume. It just has a full, warm, round, in your face presence. And when you push them they sound even better. I never turn down the chance to use one but I'll never get one (only) because of the size.
 
#254
810s are decent. My experience has been primarily with Ampeg, Acoustic, and SWR 810s.

After years of trying different cabs, I settled on a 1990s Peavey TVX-412.

The 412 will eat an 810e alive when it comes to sheer volume and lows. However, the 412 has a "darker" slightly scooped sound. 810s, in my experience, really punch in the low-mid frequency range.

Of course, this is nothing that some simple EQing can't correct to taste.

Remember OP, it's about what you like - not what we like.

Get out there and try some cabs.
 
#256
I loved my ampeg 8x10... but at 160lbs and being very bulky it became a real chore to move it. After 10 years our guitarist refused to help me move it any more. I was dragging it up and down a flight of stairs at our jam spot by myself (I was in really good shape at the time) not to mention whatever obstacles I encountered at clubs. While it sounded really, really good and I still miss the tone, I absolutely do not miss moving it. If you're young and strong or have lots of help, then I'd say go for it in a heartbeat. I sold it and picked up two 4x12s because they're much much easier to move (and I almost always only take one to a show).

This is coming from the guy who just picked up a Peavey 6x12 thats almost the same size as a fridge :/ we'll see how long it lasts in my arsenal lol. I have a different guitarist :)
 
#257
ev rodriguez said:
Entwhisle is one of my rock bass heroes. He really pushed the envelope turning "bass technique" into "bass guitar", and pushed bass tech as well, with massive racks and custom made gear. I'm talking about off the rack gear.

Another brilliant bassist Pino Palladino has taken over John's bass duties with The Who. What does he choose as his stage amp rig?
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Pino uses Ampeg classic with 810's
Aguilar, and Ashdown.
 
#258
I am always amazed how people are so passionate about what they use, and seem to think that their opinion is the only correct one. This applies to both the 810 guys and the fEARfull guys. Everyone is always so quick to defend the honor of the rig they use. I have two GK 410 NEOs and a Peavey BW 215d and I am perfectly happy with them, if other people don't like them, who cares.
 
#259
Hopkins said:
I am always amazed how people are so passionate about what they use, and seem to think that their opinion is the only correct one. This applies to both the 810 guys and the fEARfull guys. Everyone is always so quick to defend the honor of the rig they use. I have two GK 410 NEOs and a Peavey BW 215d and I am perfectly happy with them, if other people don't like them, who cares.
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+1 :bassist:
 
#260
Hopkins said:
I am always amazed how people are so passionate about what they use, and seem to think that their opinion is the only correct one. This applies to both the 810 guys and the fEARfull guys. Everyone is always so quick to defend the honor of the rig they use. I have two GK 410 NEOs and a Peavey BW 215d and I am perfectly happy with them, if other people don't like them, who cares.
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the thread was derailed (as usual) by people who have no business posting in the thread, other than to show pictures of their (totally non-related to the topic) rig, or comment on why the topic related piece of gear, is inferior to theirs.
 

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