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Your Opinion on 8x10's
- Thread starter EvolLove13
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i like using eight 10" speakers. but id rather use two 410s than an 810. just for ease of transport and the option to bring only one cab.
+1
810's are heavy.
Having put a '66 next to a 810e yeah it does handily burry it in volume. In my direct experience, I can easily make that claim with no reservations. Thats not to say that some people might prefer one over the other, but thats personal preference.
The 12's Torin is talking about are not your run of the mill cabs. Again in my direct experience a dual 12" woofer fEARful rig will get as loud as an 810e.
I really like my eden 810xlt. I leave it at my church though. So I don't have an issue with loading it. If I didn't get such a good deal on it I probably would have just gotten 2 410 cabs. I really want to try this thing with my svt 2 but since it is an 8 ohm cab doesn't look like it will happen.
I also acquired a Carvin br410 sealed cab in a trade. I was pleasantly surprised with the tone of this cab. I have not played an ampeg fridge or a 410he but for the money the Carvin rig sounds really good and would be hard to beat IMO. I think they sell for $350 new.
I also acquired a Carvin br410 sealed cab in a trade. I was pleasantly surprised with the tone of this cab. I have not played an ampeg fridge or a 410he but for the money the Carvin rig sounds really good and would be hard to beat IMO. I think they sell for $350 new.
1st, I didn't say a 15/6, although it's clearly a monster in it's own right.
2nd, if someone likes 810s in general (or a specific 810), that's great. Terrific. Have at it. It's about what each guy likes. But to claim the 810 Vd that you do is simply wishful thinking. Mass-marketed 810s employ drivers that are (& must be, economically) pedestrian. A pretty good guess at 810 displacement is in the 800-900cc range. A single 3015LF clocks in @ 845cc.
fair enough, however I never said anything about volume and the OP didn't ask for cabs that will be as loud as an 810 or bury an 810, he asked about 810s.
In my opinion the better approach would be to ask the OP why he is looking for an 8x10 specifically before everyone starts shooting off suggestions from 1x12s to 151566?
You're right. And per my post, a man with a Trace V8 deserves something better. That IS my opinion on 810's which is what he was asking.
^Good grief.
People who do not care for 8x10's are usually critical of their lack of sub-bass reproduction. If upper midrange and/or treble is important to you, check out the horn/tweeter/crossover situation. Finally, if the cab is going to get hauled around a lot, it's easy to deal some abuse to something that big, so make sure it is constructed well.
i read it as the OP is looking for an 810 that would work well with his V8.
"better" is subjective. and you are assuming that no 810 in the market will meet the OPs needs/tonal goals. no one asked the OP for more details or what kind of sound he wants, weight/size limitations, volume requirements etc. no one's suggestions are valid without knowing that first.
Same here. I'd love to do a blind A/B test between the NV412 and a fridge. I'm sure we'd see more converts to the NV412.
How dare you suggest a blind taste test
. Don't you know nothin'? It's the eyes that produce the sound 
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I never owned the 412 but I played Brett's V8 through one several times when I owned it. Sounded blissful albeit different than the sealed 10 sound. I suggested the 610 to kinda stay in the realm...
I'm overly cautious these days on threads because either the word police or the old dudes who haven't found this century spit their dentures out trying to respond fast enough with their supposed "professional" opinion word drivel attacks and frankly, it's not worth getting their blood pressure any higher as I'm sure they are already paying for their doctors cottages as it is.
I certainly am not shy when it comes to saying the Berg stuff crushes any other production cab and rivals most customs.
Hopefully I'm not responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs with that statement.
An 8x10, it's like having two 4x10.
I've always prefer a 6x10. a little tighter to my ears. TJM
A Berg. NV6x10, or Ampeg Classic 6x10.
But I must say the Heritage 8x10 is something special.
My opinion on 810s?
they're big, and heavy, but IMO with their height and the tilt-back casters can in some situations be easier to lug around than some 410s. I know a guy who used to fit an Ampeg 810e into the back of his neon and lugged it on his own without much trouble. As for sound, they're okay - for some people, it's their cup of tea, for others, it's not quite. It all depends on make and model and individual's taste on things like tweeter or no tweeter, sealed vs ported, and various voicing differences. I've never had a problem being through one, but I still prefer my 410, it's small in comparison and nice and light (in comparison to most 410s).
If I were buying a new cabinet, I'd probably check out a fEARful or some jack 10s. Of course, you're not me and you don't have to be. If you can afford it and don't mind lugging it, you'd be hard-pressed to do better than an Ampeg 810e, there's a reason Ampeg defines bass tone to so many people.
they're big, and heavy, but IMO with their height and the tilt-back casters can in some situations be easier to lug around than some 410s. I know a guy who used to fit an Ampeg 810e into the back of his neon and lugged it on his own without much trouble. As for sound, they're okay - for some people, it's their cup of tea, for others, it's not quite. It all depends on make and model and individual's taste on things like tweeter or no tweeter, sealed vs ported, and various voicing differences. I've never had a problem being through one, but I still prefer my 410, it's small in comparison and nice and light (in comparison to most 410s).
If I were buying a new cabinet, I'd probably check out a fEARful or some jack 10s. Of course, you're not me and you don't have to be. If you can afford it and don't mind lugging it, you'd be hard-pressed to do better than an Ampeg 810e, there's a reason Ampeg defines bass tone to so many people.
I have had an SVT w/one cab for almost 40 years. Guys used to run 2 cabs a lot. Now an SVT 3 with the SVT HLF (4X10) is all I need. (not playing teen centers anymore) But if I needed more I would add a second 4X10 rather than lug the 8X10. I also have the VW Hartke setup, and it can't compete with the Ampeg stuff.
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When I was much younger I wanted one, couldn't afford it. Now that I'm old as dirt and can afford one, I'm not lifting, toting, carrying, wheeling,schlepping, anything that huge or weighs that much for the gigs I do.
