Zoom Owners' Club!

[Johno Dunn]

The new M Vave Chocolate +, has a Host out. I haven’t quite figured it out yet, but I’ll let you know when I do!

 

[bdplaid]

I have a new B1 Four, and I'm not happy with what I'm getting from the compressors. Any guidance? Thanks.

 

[Johno Dunn]

I have a new B1 Four, and I'm not happy with what I'm getting from the compressors. Any guidance? Thanks.

Which Comp, and what are you trying to achieve?

 

[bdplaid]

Which Comp, and what are you trying to achieve?

Any of them, and just levelling out the volume and tone. I usually use a Diamond, but the Zoom comps seem to work differently. they seem to require a lot of fiddling.

 

[stubbsonic]

In my experiences, the compressors of the B1 Four are not fast enough for bass and particular slapping.

The B2 Four compressors are a completely different story. Much faster, much more like the analog gear they are emulating.

 

[bdplaid]

I can definitely get some squish, but they don't feel as good as analog comps.

 

[bdplaid]

Turning this around, what are folks' favorite B1four compressors, and what do they do for you?

 

[Johno Dunn]

Any of them, and just levelling out the volume and tone. I usually use a Diamond, but the Zoom comps seem to work differently. they seem to require a lot of fiddling.

I’m not very familiar with the B1, but the Diamond in the 60B+, is pretty stellar. I’m using the Dynacomp in mine, but the Glam (?) is beefy.

 

[bdplaid]

There's no diamond in the pedals, but rather an approximation of an optical comp. It's ok, but no diamond.

 

[Johno Dunn]

There's no diamond in the pedals, but rather an approximation of an optical comp. It's ok, but no diamond.

Interesting. There’s one in the B+.

 

[OggyOi]

One of these arrived this week. I've had a little time to play around with it, having not owned any multi-fx for many, many years, and it makes some impressive sounds.

 

[bdplaid]

I tried a B Plus. I liked it, but decided it was just as hard to operate on the fly as my B. But I thought the B Plus sounded better. I don't recall a comp named Diamond. If it's like the regular pedal, it's awesome.

 

[Johno Dunn]

I tried a B Plus. I liked it, but decided it was just as hard to operate on the fly as my B. But I thought the B Plus sounded better. I don't recall a comp named Diamond. If it's like the regular pedal, it's awesome.

I think it’s called Glam Comp.

 

[bdplaid]

Glam = Diamond, now that's funny!

 

[Johno Dunn]

Yes, Glam Compressor.

 

[Johno Dunn]

I’ve decided to add another layer to my 60B+ board. Adding a JHS Summing Amp between the Zoom and the CabZone. Looking for a little clearer tone through the effects!

 

[bdplaid]

Yes, Glam Compressor.

I've played around more with the compressors, and none are really patterned after the Diamond. The closest I got to it was the regular old OptComp. Which makes sense.

BTW, the GlamComp seems to have a mid-cut, to my ears. The Diamond and OptComp have more midrange.

 

[Scatamonky]

I recently bought a ZOOM B2Four - I'm still getting to grips with it but my first observation was that everything sounded a lot bassier and a little muddier?

Have other people found this to be true also? I have A/Bed this by using the bypass and just hearing my amp (Ashdown Studio 15) with the EQ mostly flat

Other than this I am loving the effects - I have a main effect that I like saved to one of the user presets - then just two or three others that I will switch to - like a mice chorus for Dancin' in the Moonnlight by Thin Lizzy

 

[SteveCS]

I recently bought a ZOOM B2Four - I'm still getting to grips with it but my first observation was that everything sounded a lot bassier and a little muddier?

Having not played with one I can't comment, but I do see that the B2-Four has an EQ section and DI simulation that are 'Master' and apply to all patches equally. Perhaps you are hearing the impact of one or both of these elements. Might be worth trying with the EQ set flat and the DI set to 'Off'...

 

[stubbsonic]

... my first observation was that everything sounded a lot bassier and a little muddier?

I noticed the same thing. It's not inherent in the B2 Four's hardware. I think it is just how they designed the factory presets, and also the default settings when you insert an amp/cab block.

The easiest way to address this is to adjust the global EQ (which, as the name implies, affects all patches)-- but it's not very precise. The second easiest is to go to the amp/cab sim and reduce the bass knob on the amp. Depending on the amp model, you can get a pretty satisfying tone with just the amp's EQ. If the amp EQ doesn't quite get it, I can further fine-tune by adding a parametric to notch a specific low-mid frequency.