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Effect on Sound by loosening neck bolts

Just catching up on the thread, interesting… when I was younger, I read an interview with Billy Sheehan who talked about cranking the neck screws as tight as he could get them. So that’s what I did for a long time. Not sure it accomplished anything tonally but I did manage to strip some screws. Now I just tighten until snug and it seems to work just as well. I can’t help but think that other factors, such as the relationship between neck and body woods and builds, is a far more significant factor, all else equal.

Also, trying to draw conclusions about what the instrument designers intended from marketing materials, as was done with the Yamaha basses earlier, doesn’t seem prudent to me. Marketing departments tend to use verbiage that will entice the customer without necessarily being accurate to the engineer/designer’s intentions.

Help getting this tone of The Smashing Pumpkins

She also used Mesa Boogie cabs with 400+ heads for a decent chuck of time. having said that, it's been mentioned but Billy Corgan plays almost all of the recorded bass on the Pumpkins albums.

Here's a cool article with some insight:

Has anyone tried the lightweight Hartke HL410 or other HL series cabs?

In fact they are probably not. But they are all neodymium.
No they not and you just posting w/o doing research 🔬 The primary difference between the Hartke HD and HL series is their magnet type: the HD series uses traditional heavy ceramic/ferrite magnets, while the HL series uses lightweight neodymium magnets. 🧲

LaBella vs TI

There is no good reason. The LaBellas are superior strings for longevity, feel, and consistency. The A string of a TI set is as floppy as a rubber band. The LaBellas were developed to compete with the TI's, and ended up being better, especially after cloning the gauges for the first run, but realizing the A string floppiness. LaBella fixed that in the next run, making the A string marginally larger in diameter to match the tension of the other strings in the set. You are better off with the LaBellas. And four years for a set of LaBella flats is not old. Keep them on there for a few more years, or until they start to fray and/or lose intonation stability.
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Ampeg rb 110 vs Fender rumble lt25?

That stacked are pretty simple setup , effect send from top unit to effect return on bottom unit. Bottom unit as active extend cab, everything control by top unit.

In real world, Wine cellar sound more juicy and lively than Joyo Tidal Wave. Place the Joyo R after Wine Cellar to create grindy SVT-ist tonal, meanwhile place the Fender Bassman Driver last for Superbassman creamy scoop overdrive tone.

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While we’re at it, are your two RB112 more than loud enough when playing with a hard hitting drummer in a medium sized room ?

Where to start?

I don't know where to start
Before you delve into scales/theory spend some time learning good (as in...safe...) technique. Learn how to hold the bass...neck angle...bass height etc. I'm sure the "Talking Bass" site has a section on this. If not search Youtube for "safe right/left hand technique".
Your hands/fingers/wrists will thank you for this, at a later stage.

Here is a thread on the subject of getting started.

Best of look on your bass journey. :bassist:
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mick karn: tuning and strings

so i was listening to a mixture of all things karn today, and i was curious what does he tune to? sounds like to me in japan hes in standard, however, on his solo stuff and some of the dali's car material hes kind of tuned all over.

also, did/does he use flatwounds or roundwounds. sometimes his sounds seems 'flat' and sometiems it sounds 'round'. i also heard a rumor the strings he did used were new, but aged 14 years.

thanks for the help
a little more in regards to tuning, i've either learned or started to learn most of Mick's bass parts from Japan thru to The Tooth Mother & Polytown, & the only one i found i had to alter the entire tuning of the bass was the song Dali's Car, every other song i have been able to play in tune in a440 tuning. there is a song on The Tooth Mother called Gossip's Cup where he actually plays some intentional quarter tones.
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New Mesa 800D (not D800) vs Genzler Kinetix

Interested in both these amps, so I was reading through the thread, someone mentioned price and I’d like to give an Australian perspective. I already own (and love) a Genzler Magellan 800 and have been interested in the Kinetix for a while, also interested in the 800D because my favourite album was recorded with a Mesa 400+. Right now the Kinetix costs $1850au and the 800D is $2300au. I think this is because Mesa is sold via a distributor and Genzler is imported direct by a retailer. I’d love to give both a shot but the Kinetix is much more in my price range.
Opposite here in New Zealand.
Genzler Kinetix $2700 NZD.
Mesa 800D $2299 NZD.
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Finally did it!

I don’t imagine too many (if anybody) remembers me here, but I used to post all the time. Anyways after 21 years of calling myself a bassist I finally played my first show last weekend. I screwed up a ton and my fingers were so dry it felt like I was playing strings made of sandpaper but I managed to fumble through our whole set. Now that some of the self criticism has dissipated though I feel amazing. I don’t really know if anyone knows how many flubs I had other than the old dude who was right in front of me watching me play, but he seemed to be having a great time and actually helped keep me from getting too into my own head when I forgot we added a couple extra bars on the guitar solo section.
But yeah, at one point I think I had TB set as my homepage on my phone so it just feels right to report in, nice to see it still healthy here. Love ya Talkbass.


Dude, that’s probably the best thing I’ve read all day !!! Awesome !!!

I’ve lost a lot of my memory due to a bad head injury, chemo, etc etc … but still remember my first gig, 43 years ago ! It’s an awesome feeling of achievement when you’ve completed that first gig. Yeah, there are always things you’ll wish you had done differently, but just the feeling of knowing that you’ve conquered it, and people rocked out to your playing… it’s one of the best feelings in the world !

Congrats !
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Bergantino "super" stack

Well, I ended up getting the stack figured out. I got both. :)

There was a nice fellow selling a HT322 and HT115 about 45 minutes away from my gig I had on Saturday in Tacoma, so I left home early and went up to buy them. He made me a deal I couldn't refuse, so I figured what's the harm in having both?

I really dig them. I can't decide if I like the 322 double stack better, or the 322/115 stack. They both sound amazing.View attachment 7546234View attachment 7546235
That'll get it done! Nice Rig(s)!

GT-1B vs GX-1B. Is the shiny new object worth buying?

As far as I know it's unbalanced outputs... a TRS to XLR adaptor wont do anything for you.

I have a GT-1B and have tried the new GX-1B a few times. It's definitely mechanically better built, and the preamps have been renamed to contemporary offerings (or hints at more contemporary offerings) but I would not say it is sonically superior to the GT-1b.
You might find the screen/UI a little bit easier to work with, though.

If you want to go deeper into the Boss AIRD/Modelling environment, save your money and step up to one of the GT-1000 units, instead. The 1000Core is quite a step up in features, routing, and I feel that it sounds better.

Fender Rumble 800 - Vintage and Drive for that SVT/BDDI tone?

I often play on Fender Rumble combos in rehearsal studios - not the 800, mostly the 500 I believe.
The vintage switch and the drive don't sound like SVT, at all. Vintage in a different way, not the SVT way.
I always switch it of, and I don't use the drive either.

When you see the number of threads about "how to sound like a SVT without a SVT?", I think if the Rumble could sound like it, we would know by now.

That said, it's a highly regarded amp.
My SVT-ish and ,Bassman-ish juice pedal combo setup, but match with Ampeg RB112 stacked.

My combo EQ setup pretty much like rumble EQ curve - scoop.
Both ultra hi/lo engage, bass 10.30, both mid and treble 2.30.
Push the mid EQ to make entire tone less scoop.
Then tweak the Caline Wine Cellar for clean SVT tone, Joyo engage for grindy SVT, and Bassman pedal tweak to nail that Super Bassman big scoop mild dirt tubey sound

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