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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Oh hell, man. Dunno how old you are, but BOTH "Zen Arcade" and Minutmen's "Double Nickels On The Dime" came out the Summer of '84, about two months before I turned 16.

I was already into both bands and I begged my mom to take me to Starship Records in Tulsa (cool old shop--one blue house with yellow trim that was a head shop, one yellow house with blue trim next door that was a record store) to pick up both double albums. I guess I had my driving permit but still had to have an adult driver in the car with me or something...

Anyways, I recall it was raining like hell. My mom waited in the car while I popped in, grabbed both double albums and, for good measure, I also picked up "My War" by Black Flag which I had a taped copy of but wanted on vinyl. What a haul.

I kinda feel bad for younger music fans who maybe haven't had the same experience of hearing about music by word of mouth or xeroxed old ragazines, finding them in a record store stacks, getting them home...the big artwork, the smell of new vinyl...it's cool that today you can pull up just about anything--no matter how obscure--on a music blog or YouTube or any other number of methods, but I think some little pleasures got lost too.

Just was saying this to the ol' lady the other day. I remember punk music mail order fliers, not only music but you had to order your Doc's from there too because no store had them. Underground was way underground before the interwebz.
 
Dookie is a nice album, not incredapunk it its delivery but still some good heavy pop. I never listen to anything else by them though. However I got it at age 13, what a perfect age for it to first hit you.

I do remember being like 7 and mom driving me to swim lessons and hearing that good riddance song on the radio all the time over and over and begging her to turn it off lol.
 
Thinking back on being a kid in the car...Mom played a lot of Lucinda Williams. I hate hate hated that to. Now thinking back on it, it's all stuck in my head and I want to hear "car wheels on a gravel road"

I hated all the folky country stuff growing up as its all my family would play. Then Grandma put on Black Dog by led zepplin and I realized there was some cool going on. Of course now I'm also pining for all this country music I heard all my life now. It's like I hated to be forced into hearing it, but now that I don't hear it ever I'm like where did it go?
 
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Joy Division are one of those bands that were HUGE to me back in the early 80s. I learned every bassline...

But they are also one of the bands from that era that doesn't hold up for me that well. I still admire them a great deal, and appreciate/understand what they did for certain scenes and genres of music, indie releases, etc. but while I do get in a "Trip Down Memory Lane" mood now and then, and dig in to a lot of stuff that I played to death decades past, Joy Division just comes off as too gloomy and pretentious for me to listen for long.

I'm the same way with a lot of old hardcore. I was a punk early on, and I still dig a lot of the old stuff, but I find that most punk/HC I can still pull out and get into today is the less overtly political stuff...bands with maybe more of a sense of humor or more diversity in their approach than simple LOUDFASTRULES. There was a period around '82-'85 when a lot of punk stuff got mixed with LSD-inspired psych weirdness. Love a lot of that sorta thing...

There's a Joy Division cover band in Madison that does 1-2 shows a year. No keyboards, the singer is very good, but doesn't sound much like Ian Curtis. They are shaging incredible. It's heavy, bass-driven rock. I've never been a Joy Division fan, but this band takes all of the stuff that I don't like about JD, throws it away and turns it into something awesome.

Found some videos:

 
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Anyone have any advice on a Source Audio SA126 Bass Envelope Filter? It's not the Pro, or the Manta, just the regular ol' filter. My envelope filter search is nearing an end, and I'm thinking either SA (the Pro and Manta are a bit spendy) or the MXR Bass Envelope Filter. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!
 
Im just messing with you guys. I actually really like the first two records. Dookie just falls into that time when corporate rock was digging up the underground and I have a big challenge accepting any of those albums. Dookie was right up there with Nevermind and Goo.
 
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Yeah, I have GOT to order me up a copy of this, along with some Monobrow.

Who else on here has releases I should check out? I know one Doom Poster has a project called "Hex Volt" (which I contend is a kickass name) but they may only be a live entity.

Mr. Hex Volt here! We have some rough unmastered demos at the soundcloud link in my signature, other than that an "official" release is in progress. We got the instrumental tracks down, just need to do some editing, then record vocals, then get mixed, mastered, artwork, yadda ... Believe you me, you guys will be the first to know when it's all DUNN.

We are not really Doom or Stoner, but may be of interest here due to the bass-drums-only no-guitar format, three parallel rigs, assloads of gnarly toobz distortion (14 tubes total in current live rig, with 4 strings for a tube-to-string ratio of 3.5:1!), etc..
 
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Just was saying this to the ol' lady the other day. I remember punk music mail order fliers, not only music but you had to order your Doc's from there too because no store had them. Underground was way underground before the interwebz.

That's right. That's how I got my first Doc Martens. Wow.

This is gonna date me even further, but I remember before you coukld find funky-colored hair dye in stores the people I ran with would bleach their hair out to platinum white, then they'd break open colored magic markers to get to the felt interior which was infused with colored ink, and rub it all over their hair.

I also knew people who would dissolve the dye out of different colored crepe paper in a bowl of water and dye their hair with that. Usually it would sweat off all down their face by the end of a show. Good times.
 
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Looks like the backline for ESG5 will be a Hartke LH1000 and a GK 810. Never played the GK before but the LH1000 is pretty similar to my Carvin I think, so should be somewhat familiar. I love the logistics of sharing a backline, but I hate playing gear that isn't mine :p

LH is clean, loud and loves pedals. Should be just fine. Kind of surprised that they're not using an SVT for that, or at least have one as an option for all of the dudes that are already using one.
 
That's right. That's how I got my first Doc Martens. Wow.

This is gonna date me even further, but I remember before you coukld find funky-colored hair dye in stores the people I ran with would bleach their hair out to platinum white, then they'd break open colored magic markers to get to the felt interior which was infused with colored ink, and rub it all over their hair.

I also knew people who would dissolve the dye out of different colored crepe paper in a bowl of water and dye their hair with that. Usually it would sweat off all down their face by the end of a show. Good times.

And was it Adidas Spiders? I think they were called, had to have them when not rocking the Doc's LOL. Oh and untucked, buttoned all the way up dress shirts with paisleys on them when not rocking band shirts. LOL, nostalgia.
 
Looks like the backline for ESG5 will be a Hartke LH1000 and a GK 810. Never played the GK before but the LH1000 is pretty similar to my Carvin I think, so should be somewhat familiar. I love the logistics of sharing a backline, but I hate playing gear that isn't mine :p

Do the guitarists have set amps/cabs to play through too? I can just hear the grumble, grumble, rant, rave on that one.
 
And was it Adidas Spiders? I think they were called, had to have them when not rocking the Doc's LOL. Oh and untucked, buttoned all the way up dress shirts with paisleys on them when not rocking band shirts. LOL, nostalgia.

I had some paisley shirts, since it's confession time and all. I got pretty into that psych revival scene in the 80s. Some called it "The Paisley Underground." Jeebuz. My first bands outside of straight punk bands were heavy 60s fuzzed out rave up garage rock ripoff artists.

But, Docs aside, I always wore lo-top Chuck Taylors. To this day I have a bout 10 pairs of 'em in different colors. Unfortunately, my feet and legs hurt so bad so often I can't really wear them anymore.

Still have two pairs of Docs too!
 
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I'd like to issue a general apology to everyone here for my off topic rambling. It's just about the coolest corner of any internet forum I've ever been on and, goshdarnit, I've come to think of you people as friends.

I can certainly stick more to gear discussion, which I also dig. I feel like I take away too much from people who have actual gear-related comments and questions.

If anyone would rather I STFU more often, I promise I won't run off wailing like a girl.

I'll just sit quietly in front of my computer out of sight and sound of everyone and sob to myself like a full grown boss man.
 
Mr. Hex Volt here! We have some rough unmastered demos at the soundcloud link in my signature

Excellent. Will check out when I get home this evening!

...other than that an "official" release is in progress. We got the instrumental tracks down, just need to do some editing, then record vocals, then get mixed, mastered, artwork, yadda ... Believe you me, you guys will be the first to know when it's all DUNN.

We'd better be, dammit.