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115 X 410 combination

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countrybassman

Mar 26, 2010
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norwich, connecticut
#1
I have a Reeves 225 head running thru a Berg NV115 cab and want to get an additional cab to pair with the NV115 as it isn't loud enough alone trying to keep up with my two loud guitar players. I am thinking of a 410 cab (an Orange OBC 410 to be exact since it is an 8 ohm cab)to pair up with the 15, but reading some TB posts it seems to be a bad idea. Before I shell out $1,000 for this cab, I thought I would ask the 410-115 comb question. I like the Berg 115 but it gets lost with my gigs, mostly no FOH support. I also like the tight sound of 410 cabs. Please tell me my best way to go ....thanks:
 
#8
Because people decide to be complete jerks (which they will) you should do a quick search for "mixing cabs" or "mixing drivers"

Grab a beer and do some reading bro, save yourself the harassment :D
 
#9
lomo said:
The 115 won't help your 410. If the 410 isn't enough, then get a 2nd one, or a bigger cab.
Read the many other threads on this topic.
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No.
He has the 115 and wants to add the 410.


Ok countrybassman,
For every person here who tells you not to mix cabs, there is another that does it, has done it for years, and loves it.
After spying on this overall topic for sometime, I've extrapolated this: try it, keep an eye on wattage and ohms. Make sure the fifteen lives on top of the 410 so you can hear if it is in distress.
Have fun, tell us how it works out.
 
#14
I feel that after cracking wise I need to offer some proper advice. You have a boutique level tube head which is somewhat wasted if not paired with a boutique level cab.

Drop some serous dollars on a serious cab, don't move into mixed cab territory with such a nice tube amp. Science suggests it's a bad idea because of phasing and power distribution issues. If you need to move air you need a single cab solutions: 412, 610 or 810.
 
#15
There's actually plenty of info on this topic, all over the amps forum, as well as in the faq's. Bottom line, don't waste your money on this pairing. If it were me, I'd snag a 2nd Berg 115, but if you want really loud, dump the cab you have and get one big cab, 610, 810, or 412. And btw, 15's are not deeper, and 10's are not punchier. In fact, you can make no generalizations based on driver size.
 
#16
SunnBass said:
No.
He has the 115 and wants to add the 410.


Ok countrybassman,
For every person here who tells you not to mix cabs, there is another that does it, has done it for years, and loves it.
After spying on this overall topic for sometime, I've extrapolated this: try it, keep an eye on wattage and ohms. Make sure the fifteen lives on top of the 410 so you can hear if it is in distress.
Have fun, tell us how it works out.
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Totally agree.
Companies like Mesa have been mixing 15's and 10's in the same cabinet for years (but what do they know?).
When I play country gigs I use an Avatar B156 with an Avatar B210 on top and I like the sound. Works out just fine for me.
Don't let the "don't mix cabs" guys tell you what to do.
If you like 15's with 10's go for it. Make your choices with your ears not with some arcane mathematical sine wave formula.
There are no RULES. Do what works for YOU. Find YOUR sound. Or go ahead and join the herd and sound like someone else tells you that you should sound. It's up to you.
 
#18
Itzayana said:
Totally agree.
Companies like Mesa have been mixing 15's and 10's in the same cabinet for years (but what do they know?).
When I play country gigs I use an Avatar B156 with an Avatar B210 on top and I like the sound. Works out just fine for me.
Don't let the "don't mix cabs" guys tell you what to do.
If you like 15's with 10's go for it. Make your choices with your ears not with some arcane mathematical sine wave formula.
There are no RULES. Do what works for YOU. Find YOUR sound. Or go ahead and join the herd and sound like someone else tells you that you should sound. It's up to you.
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There's a decided difference in matching a 210 with a 115 than a 410 with a 115. You're much less likely to destroy your 15 with a 210 than you are with a 410. Tone wise either one is a gamble. Because 4x10's are usually more efficient and LOUDER, and they can take more power than a 115, you set yourself up to overpower your 15, and not be able to hear it well, especially when people put the 15 on the bottom of their stack.

If the OP is dead set on doing this, put your 15 at the top of the rig. Otherwise either get another matching Berg, or sell it off and get two matching 410's.
 
#20
Itzayana said:
Totally agree.
Companies like Mesa have been mixing 15's and 10's in the same cabinet for years (but what do they know?).
When I play country gigs I use an Avatar B156 with an Avatar B210 on top and I like the sound. Works out just fine for me.
Don't let the "don't mix cabs" guys tell you what to do.
If you like 15's with 10's go for it. Make your choices with your ears not with some arcane mathematical sine wave formula.
There are no RULES. Do what works for YOU. Find YOUR sound. Or go ahead and join the herd and sound like someone else tells you that you should sound. It's up to you.
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Stacking a 15 and a 410 could very easily be called "joining the herd and doing what the marketing departments tell you to do."

I completely agree with finding your own sound and using your ears. But if you're not able to try before buying (which many are not) or you don't have a return policy so you can see how the cab sounds off-axis and out in the room, I find the science to be a helpful guide.
 

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