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2009 Toyota Prius

#81
Mark Latimour said:
Hehe, the anti-Prius crowd are like the anti-gun crowd in the "Show your gun" threads. Really annoying. :)
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Quite true.


Those things aren't half bad. I can name few cars that are worse:

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Just please, contain the smug.
 
#85
Blonde Bassist said:
I get 60mpg from a 10 year old VW Passat, I dont understand why everyone thinks the Prius is so good, if you compare it to others on the market, it's effectively not economically worth it. (unless it's just being run off the battery, and then you'd be better off getting a g wiz).
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you sure you don't get 60 kpg in your passat? otherwise, you must have a flux capacitor in there, because you're getting triple the mpg the car has been tested and rated for by the manufacturer.

even if it is "kpg", 60 kpg is equivalent to 36 mpg, and the passat is rated for less than 25.

so, yeah. proof of your physics-bending would be WIN. :hyper:
 
#89
john turner said:
you sure you don't get 60 kpg in your passat? otherwise, you must have a flux capacitor in there, because you're getting triple the mpg the car has been tested and rated for by the manufacturer.

even if it is "kpg", 60 kpg is equivalent to 36 mpg, and the passat is rated for less than 25.

so, yeah. proof of your physics-bending would be WIN. :hyper:
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Ive had three Passat wagons of various engine types (none were 4-motion) and the best mileage was on the 1.8t that soul get about 28 mpg on the highway.
 
#90
john turner said:
you sure you don't get 60 kpg in your passat? otherwise, you must have a flux capacitor in there, because you're getting triple the mpg the car has been tested and rated for by the manufacturer.

even if it is "kpg", 60 kpg is equivalent to 36 mpg, and the passat is rated for less than 25.

so, yeah. proof of your physics-bending would be WIN. :hyper:
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No, I mean 60 miles to the gallon. It's pretty simple really, you just drive economically. Most cars (certainly in the europe) have an optimum speed for fuel consumption which is usually around 56 miles per hour, which is the equivelant of about 100km per hour. You'll find this is the speed most trucks will be going on the motorways in this country. So if you stick at a reasonable speed (certainly for motorway driving) I usually go for around 60mph. Don't break if you don't need to ( use the cars natural deceleration, maybe do a bit of coasting here and there (by coasting I meam putting you foot down on the clutch so the engine isn't engaged, which isn't totally all that safe acording to some, but it cuts down on unneeded engine use) accelerate efficiently (not up hill as it takes more energy to accelerate uphill than it does down hill, think about it), gradual acceleration instead of foot down to the floor kinda thing, so you either don't have to break, or only have to break slightly. Make sure your tyre pressures are all correct, take roof bars off if their not being used. Take any unneccesary weight out of the car, so all that crap thats sitting in the boot/back seat, does it really need to be there?

Another tip would be tailgating trucks, but I don't recomend that because it's highly unsafe. If you're right behind a big truck, the truck is making a huge hole in the air and you can sneak at the back before the air comes back together infront of your car, which cuts down on air resitance, and improves economy. However, if you're right behind a truck, you can't see whats going on infront of him, he can't see you. If he breaks suddenly you simply don't have enough time to react before slamming into the back or him and going underneath it, which is really not a clever idea.

Simple things really, it does work though. Maybe you need a manual car rather than an automatic though to get it a bit higher, cause there's a lot in there with short shifting and stuff like that, which can sometimes help also.
 
#91
lol. i don't care if your commuting around everest downhill both ways, there's no way you're getting 60 miles to the gallon.

epa mpg estimates are extremely generous in their calculations and testing - most folks, see less mpg results than the epa estimates, and those folks who do achieve better get on the order of 20% max. not triple the rating.

edit : manuals do end up getting slightly better mpg than automatic, but still. triple? not physically possible.
 
#96
12bass said:
Note that the U.K. (like a lot of the world, including Canada) uses imperial gallons, which are approximately 20% larger. That would convert to roughly 50 mpg US.

On a side note, overall, metric makes much more sense....
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yeah, on the metric thing.

and interesting, did not know that about imp gallons. being a wookiee at heart, i'd much prefer the rebel litres though. :D
 
#98
Blonde Bassist said:
Another tip would be tailgating trucks, but I don't recomend that because it's highly unsafe. If you're right behind a big truck, the truck is making a huge hole in the air and you can sneak at the back before the air comes back together infront of your car, which cuts down on air resitance, and improves economy. However, if you're right behind a truck, you can't see whats going on infront of him, he can't see you. If he breaks suddenly you simply don't have enough time to react before slamming into the back or him and going underneath it, which is really not a clever idea.

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Here's a tip:

DO NOT DO THIS!!! A simple rule of thumb here is this: If you can't see my mirrors, I can't see you.

You're putting yourself in suicide territory by trying to get better mileage by sticking your car's nose up a truck's butt.
 
#99
john turner said:
lol. i don't care if your commuting around everest downhill both ways, there's no way you're getting 60 miles to the gallon.
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The things he was talking about are referred to as "hypermiling". I was reading an article about a competition they have where people can get 150mpg in a prius, and over 50mpg in a standard vehicle

Using many of the hypermiling techniques described above, the American team drove a hybrid Toyota Prius 1,397 miles on 12.8 gallons of gas
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http://www.priusownersgroup.com/?cat=29

My mom got a Prius and driving it once in a while I felt like... (how to put this nicely)... a San Franciscan. But after I took it on a couple of 300 mile trips, and saw that it gets farther on 10 gallons than my car does on 16 gallons, that thing sure is cheap to drive!
 

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