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2013 Ampeg V-4B 100W Reissue Pt2

#3,102
father of fires said:
And the winner is???
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I was clearly the winner got to play some of the most amazing gear on the planet and never leave
my house.

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father of fires said:
I'm really really really really close to pulling the trigger but I just have one question...

Am I fooling myself that I can keep up with two full stacks and a seriously hard hitting drummer?

I'm using a 4x10 and 2x10 cab. My 500W head is more than enough so I know I can get by with less. But am I fooling myself?

I was thinking that if the V4B was not enough I could slave it with my other head but then what's the point?

Plus I flipped both the vintage V4 and V4BH that I had in the past...
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Why not just get an SVT? Takes all the worry out of the equation. I use an SVT-CL for everything these days--live gigs and now I'm discovering it makes a great recording amp too. Doesn't cost that much more than a V4B either.
 
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father of fires said:
I'm really really really really close to pulling the trigger but I just have one question...

Am I fooling myself that I can keep up with two full stacks and a seriously hard hitting drummer?

I'm using a 4x10 and 2x10 cab. My 500W head is more than enough so I know I can get by with less. But am I fooling myself?

I was thinking that if the V4B was not enough I could slave it with my other head but then what's the point?

Plus I flipped both the vintage V4 and V4BH that I had in the past...
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What is the 500w head it would be replacing? And what cabs are you using?
 
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Every time I come to this thread I feel like I'm the new guy on the block that just read the thread beginning to end and asked all the silly questions. As it turns out I've now owned my V4b for two years. It totally changed what I expect from my amp, the only other amp I will use is a Jule amp Monique with a Jule M2500, which is a pretty pricey piece of gear.

What an amazing amp, nobody seems to understand just how good it sounds or how capable those 100 watts are!
 
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Just got booked for my favorite venue. 810 friendly with no PA support for the bass. Which means I get to crank the V4b and my '69 flatback with the full blessing of the band and venue.

Last time we did it I was using the restored 810e, 1st time in this room with my restored '69 with the CTS speakers Have to wait until April though.
 
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So I love my pair of 210AVs, in fact I like the tone better then my Flatback 810 with CTS speakers although it is an awesome cab.

I'm looking for something that will get me a little more volume then the pair of 210s but when I don't necessarily need to haul the 810.

Ive gigged and owned a long list of great ported cabinets but don't want to have something drastically different, I'm very happy where I am tonally.

I guess I could add a 3rd 210AV but I don't know if the impedance mismatch will strain my V4b.

What would you put on the short list?
 
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peterpalmieri said:
So I love my pair of 210AVs, in fact I like the tone better then my Flatback 810 with CTS speakers although it is an awesome cab.

I'm looking for something that will get me a little more volume then the pair of 210s but when I don't necessarily need to haul the 810.

Ive gigged and owned a long list of great ported cabinets but don't want to have something drastically different, I'm very happy where I am tonally.

I guess I could add a 3rd 210AV but I don't know if the impedance mismatch will strain my V4b.

What would you put on the short list?
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The impedance mismatch shouldn't strain the V4B whatsoever, but I might take a look at the 610hlf. Despite it having the tag "HLF," it doesn't sound anything like the 410hlf, and in fact, it sounds closer to the 810e.
 
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peterpalmieri said:
That thing weighs more then my flatback
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110 lbs according to the website. Not quite the flatback's weight but still has some size to it. It's shorter and less deep, though.

There's always a 3rd and 4th 210av :D There was a dude on here a couple years ago who did 4 with a V4B. Me, I'd just as soon take the 810.

Always was curious what those 210av speakers would sound like in an 810e. But I've only got 4.
 
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JimmyM said:
The impedance mismatch shouldn't strain the V4B whatsoever, but I might take a look at the 610hlf. Despite it having the tag "HLF," it doesn't sound anything like the 410hlf, and in fact, it sounds closer to the 810e.
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JimmyM is correct, the 610hlf is a great sounding cabinet, very punchy mid with nice low. It's not the same low like the 410hlf and like JimmyM said it can Comp a very close 810 tone.
 
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peterpalmieri said:
So I love my pair of 210AVs, in fact I like the tone better then my Flatback 810 with CTS speakers although it is an awesome cab.

I'm looking for something that will get me a little more volume then the pair of 210s but when I don't necessarily need to haul the 810.

Ive gigged and owned a long list of great ported cabinets but don't want to have something drastically different, I'm very happy where I am tonally.

I guess I could add a 3rd 210AV but I don't know if the impedance mismatch will strain my V4b.

What would you put on the short list?
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210Avs are very nice, love them too.

I have four of them - and they are "louder than hell."
Since I am playing with much Gain, 4x are too loud for rehearsals. Maybe it works for outdoor gigs, though.

However, if you like to play clean and miss some volume, try another pair of 210AV.
You'd get the same sound, but more volume.

Much success and much fun!
 
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peterpalmieri said:
If I run a 3rd 210AV and the rig is 2.6 ohms do I tap off the 4 ohm or 2 ohm?
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1.) Ampeg officially "does not recommend" impedance mismatch.
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2.) I have read, but do not know, that Tube amps would be fine with any 2:1 ratio - yet, I was too shy to even try :D

But I remember a discussion about this, and which output to use, here on TB.
Here's a post referring to an article, which is not specifically about Ampeg, but tube amps and their output transformers in general:

Article; the section is called "Match speakers to output impedance?"
Tube Amp FAQ 1/20/99 (Frames supported)

TB post on this topic:
coreyfyfe said:
Short version is you can't. Long version is you shouldn't anyways.

If you want more low end, get a second 4x10, not a 1x15. There is a ton of information in the FAQ pages on why the 4x10/1x15 combination is marketing and not really beneficial sound wise.

From an impedance perspective, a 4 ohm and 8 ohm load in parallel yields a 2.6 ohm load. The 4x10 would get twice the power of the 1x15 (actually a good thing in this case) but it impedance mismatch isn't advisable for tube amps. Detailed answer available here, with the important section highlighted below:
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And one of the answers, I highlighted the part covering your question:
coreyfyfe said:
It's true speaker impedance is variable but they tend to be pretty steady over large stretches of the frequency range with a few peaks. Either way, as the article says, running it on 4 ohms into a 2.6 ohm load will cause overheating that can, in time, do damage to a transformer. Given that the OP is not the original owner of the amp, it's hard to know the history of the amp and how much abuse it's been subjected to over time. With that in mind I'd err towards running a properly matched load rather than a mismatch if the situation can be avoided.
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3.) Anyway, I would ask Ampeg; they are really kind.
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