What size venue would probably cause you to decide to go with two rather than one? I play in a blues band with 2 guitars, drums, sax and myself. We don't play real loud, which is nice.
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2013 Ampeg V-4B 100W Reissue Pt2
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Sorry, I was a bit ambiguous. I always take two 210 AVs if I am using those cabs, just use one for practice although I know there are several who use one for gigs. I know JimmyM has done so. Having said that, and going by your own description of your volume levels, I would imagine that two 210AVs would cover you fine. I really appreciate the light weight of the cabs which makes things so easy. I also have a 410HLF which I can use as an alternative with the V4B.
I have played a 200 seater club with two 210AVs in a drum/sax/guitar/keys combo and no FOH with no issues at all. I would think if your drummer and guitards play at sane levels the 210AV would be fine almost anywhere, if you are going through FOH obviously. With my more driven rock/blues combo I do tend to go for a bigger rig, but then a single 212AV wouldn't cover that situation either.
If you can, try both options.
Also have a look at the current 210AV head thread. If you read that it is obvious that people are slamming their 210AVs without any issues.
Yes, I've been known to use just one 210av, but my band is not super loud onstage, either. And I prefer to use two even if I run them at the same volume as one, although sometimes the easier schlep wins out.
Hey Tim and Jimmy, thanks for your input, I appreciate it! I think I need to go try these cabs out and maybe make use of the 30 day return policy... ;-)
Though I haven't tried the V4B into them, I sometimes gig my two TC-E RS210's pushing em pretty loud with my GK MB800, and that's with a active 5 string, no PA. I stack em vert of course and really like how that rig works. I've got other 212, 3-way 15/6/1, single 12's cabs and a few micro amps that I regularly gigged. Never have tried the Ampeg 210AV's.
But with the Ampeg rig, V4B+212AV, being my newest rig, it's getting the calls for most all my weekly gigs now.
I may move out some of that other gear at some point but the Ampeg rig is also my heaviest rig. So it's nice to have those other lighter, smaller amps/cabs if I get tired of schlepping the 'Peg rig around. Schlep-factor is a big consideration for a lot of us when buying. I sorta thru that out the window with this Ampeg gear cause I wanted "that tone". And again, a folding cart helps alot.
But with the Ampeg rig, V4B+212AV, being my newest rig, it's getting the calls for most all my weekly gigs now.
I may move out some of that other gear at some point but the Ampeg rig is also my heaviest rig. So it's nice to have those other lighter, smaller amps/cabs if I get tired of schlepping the 'Peg rig around. Schlep-factor is a big consideration for a lot of us when buying. I sorta thru that out the window with this Ampeg gear cause I wanted "that tone". And again, a folding cart helps alot.
I must confess there is a 212av just arrived which is tempting me, but the V4B is my small rig and a huge amount of the attraction for me is being able to get "that" tone from such an easy to shift rig as two 210avs. If I was to get a 212av then it would be competing with my berg 215 and tbh with its tiltback feature the berg would probably win on the schlepping factor alone.
anyone done a side by side comparison to the Traynor YBA200 or Peavey VB2? Interested to hear about headroom and volume comparisons. I went thru 2 Peavey VB2s and was not very impressed. Couldn've been operator error on the 2nd but the 1st was defective out of the box, the 2nd didn't have the headroom or volume I expected for a 200+watt tube amp.
I can't give you a side by side comparison but I used to own a YBA200-2. From memory it seems to me that the V4BR has a lot more volume on tap and definitely more clean headroom. The YBA200-2 is a good amp and has a good tone but the V4BR is the winner hands down. I had to fiddle withe the eq quite a bit with the Traynor to get the type of tone I wanted and the V4BR is more plug n play. Hope this helps some.
Has anyone played the v4b through an Avatar neo 212? If so, what did you think? I have a line on a good deal for one of these.
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I have an Avatar B212 NEO I use with my SVT and V4B. Nice sounding cab and I'm really happy with it.
Do tell ur experience! I have the Avatar "big gun" B412. Still on the fence about volume of the V-4B thru it but from what I've read....I'm thinking it'll b awesome. Just gun shy because the Peavey VB2 was very disappointing thru that cab (NOT ruling out operator error on my part tho!)
Yes. It'll be awesome. I find the V4B is very loud for 100 watts.
I bought the Avatar to go with my SVT, so it's the 4ohm version, if that's worth mentioning. The SVT is heavy, so when I found a V4B for sale here in the TB Classifieds, I jumped right on it. The cab sounds excellent with both amps, but then they're very similar sounding amps. Anyway, the Avatar has a nice pronounced low end without being too boomy, a little weak in the low mids but nothing some EQ can't fix. The tweet is a tad harsh, but I keep it rolled off about halfway anyway. The cab is also nice and light (I do have the NEO version).
I play in a female fronted classic rock band with a heavy handed drummer and two guitarists who are less than frugal with their volume knobs and the V4B has plenty of clean headroom to keep up as long as we're indoors. I usually use the SVT with the same cab if we're playing an outdoor gig, just for the extra clean headroom. I always have PA support but don't often need it. My bass is either a Fender P or Ric 4003.
I bought the Avatar to go with my SVT, so it's the 4ohm version, if that's worth mentioning. The SVT is heavy, so when I found a V4B for sale here in the TB Classifieds, I jumped right on it. The cab sounds excellent with both amps, but then they're very similar sounding amps. Anyway, the Avatar has a nice pronounced low end without being too boomy, a little weak in the low mids but nothing some EQ can't fix. The tweet is a tad harsh, but I keep it rolled off about halfway anyway. The cab is also nice and light (I do have the NEO version).
I play in a female fronted classic rock band with a heavy handed drummer and two guitarists who are less than frugal with their volume knobs and the V4B has plenty of clean headroom to keep up as long as we're indoors. I usually use the SVT with the same cab if we're playing an outdoor gig, just for the extra clean headroom. I always have PA support but don't often need it. My bass is either a Fender P or Ric 4003.
The Svt 212av arrived today... Very good so far!!! Will try it at a gig tomorrow...
Well I finally might pick one of these up. I've been pretty happy with my bass tone lately. I've been using a DB751 into a Dually 215 and really like the tone. Today at practice though I decided to plug my '73 SVT in after not using it for about 6 months. Wow. I keep forgetting how much I love the SVT tone. From what a lot on this thread say, I should be able to get that and grind at a very reasonable volume. The V4B being 40 something pounds too will seems like a micro compared to hauling around the big 90 pounder.
The V4B is nearly dead flat through the power section and the DI with knobs at noon and all ultra switches off. The SVT, however, is flat through the DI (preamp only DI) with the same settings, but once the power section acts on it, the sound through the cab develops a hump at 100 hz and everything else gently tapers off as you go up the spectrum. But getting the V4B to sound like the SVT is a matter of turning a couple knobs and vice versa.
