3 ways America should be more like Canada

[will33]

Here's the thing Jim - I have and am continuously working on myself. But dealing with people who I feel have contemptible attitudes and beliefs about large swatches of mankind, which is what I get from reading your posts here and elsewhere, are part of what I believe are "sin" or the messed up stuff in this world. My "Book" has many passages about confronting the evil we see: we are told that a man sharpens another like steel sharpens steel, we are told that sparing the rod spoils the child, there is suggestion that at times we may have to rebuke a idiot. Seems to me I am doing "ok".

The attempts of others and myself to point out your apparent ignorance in many things does nothing for our ego. E.g. Helping a special-needs child get a drink wouldn't make me feel smarter or better than them. The child would just not be thirsty.

British vs. American spelling.

. . . from the 'Net. (I don't know Munji, the ellipses feel far apart with the spaces....I'm afraid!)
Have you often wondered "Am I spelling g-r-e-y correctly...or is it g-r-a-y?". How do you spell the color grey or gray? Well, the answer is they are both correct. There are two acceptable spellings. Gray is used primarily in the United States and other areas that use US English. Grey is used in Great Britain and areas that use UK English.

The only exceptions to these rules are:

1. Proper nouns such as a last name; Earl Grey and Zane Grey would not be spelled Gray and L.H. Gray must be always be spelled Gray.

2. Greyhound as in the dog breed.

3. Food irradiation (quantity of radiation energy absorbed by the food as it passes through the radiation field during processing). 1 Gray = 0.001 kGy = 1 joule of energy absorbed per kilogram of food irradiated.

When all else fails..

grAy is how it's spelled in America
grEy is how it's spelled in England

Ah...like practice and practise, or burned and burnt.

 

[Jim Campbell]

I don't know .... I heard Canada bought 30,000 septic tanks and was going to invade the United States as soon as they learn to drive them.

i heard there were plans to weld them together in a last ditch attempt to have a functional submarine in the navy....the four used ones we got from mel's used subs/hair and nail salon never did work out all too well

 

[nukes_da_bass]

I searched long suit on YouTube and this video came up.maybe Jim is on to something:
Pooja Kumar In long Anarkali Suit:

 

[edpal]

unfortunately your method of "dealing" with those who you believe to be contemptible tends to take a sharp turn in the opposite direction to that of the guy that died on the cross.....you can call it what you like,or try to mealy mouth it all you want,but the word you really need to define it is hypocrisy....

My leader made fun of political leaders, tipped over money stalls in a temple marketplace. The guy had no issues with calling a spade a spade with individuals or extremely small groups holding social control in hurtful fashions. I'm still seeing our individual interaction style to be 180 degrees from each other: I despise individuals on individual things, you seem to despise entire large groups of people you don't really know anything about. I prefer to go man2man with individuals, not get mealy-mouthed about people I've never even dealt with.

 

[Joedog]

I love Canada! I'd even live there........if it was on the Gulf of Mexico........LOL.

 

[edpal]

Aluminum, Aluminium, no difference.

I wondered about that, yeah, both are acceptable. Ironically(true)the preferred spelling in both USA and Canada is aluminum. See, we got something in common after all.

 

[Jim Campbell]

My leader made fun of political leaders, tipped over money stalls in a temple marketplace. The guy had no issues with calling a spade a spade with individuals or extremely small groups holding social control in hurtful fashions. I'm still seeing our individual interaction style to be 180 degrees from each other: I despise individuals on individual things, you seem to despise entire large groups of people you don't really know anything about. I prefer to go man2man with individuals, not get mealy-mouthed about people I've never even dealt with.

i'm not clear on exactly whom it was your "leader" ever "despised" ...... "love thine enemy" "judge not"...where have i heard that .....maybe you need some remedial christianity.....i'm not sure where you would find that.....maybe do a search....take your time....

 

[4StringAxe]

I wondered about that, yeah, both are acceptable. Ironically(true)the preferred spelling in both USA and Canada is aluminum. See, we got something in common after all.

Then it was the Brits that started all this ? I knew it !

 

[edpal]

Gravedigger - Immigrant is right, you are pushing the hasp closed quickly. HEre, music to throw the powers that be off, hopefully.

 

[edpal]

i'm not clear on exactly whom it was your "leader" ever "despised" ...... "love thine enemy" "judge not"...where have i heard that .....maybe you need some remedial christianity.....i'm not sure where you would find that.....maybe do a search....take your time....

I love you as another person Jim, I just don't LIKE you. So, you're thinking my leader did the things he did was because he was happy with those people? You don't understand the use of judgement in our Book - we are not to make permanent and over-riding judgements regarding people. We are most certainly supposed to make judgement calls about specific actions - we spell that discernment. If I discerned you had a change of heart in some areas I could then like you. Currently I don't. No need to get butt-hurt, it appears you don't like me either. I can live with that.

BOT

 

[Jim Campbell]

I love you Jim, I just don't LIKE you. So, you're thinking my leader did the things he did was because he was happy with those people? You don't understand the use of judgement in our Book - we are not to make permanent and over-riding judgements regarding people. We are most certainly supposed to make judgement calls about specific actions - we spell that discernment.

frankly i can do without your misguided concept of "love"..... you seem to want to bend what your book says to fit you,rather than live according to the book.....and you're right....i don't like you,and find your corruption of "christian" values to be misguided and hypocritical......

 

[will33]

What does all this have to do with Canada again?

 

[1958Bassman]

i think the point he is making is that if you want to volunteer to pay for it,fine,but all too often people want to feel good about themselves by volunteering other peoples time and resources....it's a fair point....is everyone that protests high taxes merely a contemptible greed head taking the food from a starving mouth,or simply concerned about the welfare of his own family?

Many of those who protest high taxes are tired of paying for excessively generous spending on the part of the government. The Federal gov't has grown more than any other entity since 2008. If people are still catching up and unemployment was high, does that make sense? Income tax revenue has been down, yet most of those they hired don't generate revenue for the gov't. They bailed out several companies that folded and IIRC, they still haven't been fully repaid by all of the others, although the $35M in fines to GM for their BS will help.

Helping people who CAN'T do for themselves is great, but Welfare programs only give money to people who aren't making enough to get by at a certain level. I would like to see more emphasis on finishing high school/GED and job training. Giving only money is a very weak effort and is incredibly short-sighted.

A lot of the money the gov't spends could be used to buy food for US citizens. Also, if they want to subsidize the oil companies, the result should be lower gas prices in the US, IMO. We still need to produce vehicles that are more efficient, though. Higher prices makes it impossible to sustain a business when people see any kind of service labor or tech support as a commodity, to be shopped for the lowest price. A logical vehicle for high-efficiency fuel use is cargo vans and work trucks that don't need to pull heavy equipment. There are millions on the roads, getting 15-20 MPG and that's ridiculous.

His comment was that the ROI on higher needs people is low, so less should be spent on them. First, people with needs shouldn't be seen as a profit/loss item and second, many have skills that are untapped because those working with them don't know how to find their potential. Many in the Autism spectrum are able to see patterns, do complex math and have abilities in scientific areas that make them uniquely qualified for this kind of work. They might not have the social skills of others, but they can still be very productive. Those with physical disabilities often make great contributions, too- neglecting people, based on perception of their abilities is a quick way to make the leap into human engineering.

 

[edpal]

What does all this have to do with Canada again?

We're trying to sort that out!

. . . .America should be more like Canada by . . .

 

[1958Bassman]

Why don't you guys take it outside?

 

[edpal]

^ good suggestion. v - good post.

Helping people who CAN'T do for themselves is great, but Welfare programs only give money to people who aren't making enough to get by at a certain level. I would like to see more emphasis on finishing high school/GED and job training. Giving only money is a very weak effort and is incredibly short-sighted.

His comment was that the ROI on higher needs people is low, so less should be spent on them. First, people with needs shouldn't be seen as a profit/loss item and second, many have skills that are untapped because those working with them don't know how to find their potential. Many in the Autism spectrum are able to see patterns, do complex math and have abilities in scientific areas that make them uniquely qualified for this kind of work. They might not have the social skills of others, but they can still be very productive. Those with physical disabilities often make great contributions, too- neglecting people, based on perception of their abilities is a quick way to make the leap into human engineering.

First paragraph: I would like more training for people,"teach them to fish not just give them a fish". But not enough jobs. I feel bad for younger people (really anyone) hitting the job market.

Totally agree - had this conversation with someone yesterday, we each have a relative who is autistic but we know they are just brilliant at certain things.

 

[Jim Campbell]

What does all this have to do with Canada again?

absolutely nothing

Many of those who protest high taxes are tired of paying for excessively generous spending on the part of the government. The Federal gov't has grown more than any other entity since 2008. If people are still catching up and unemployment was high, does that make sense? Income tax revenue has been down, yet most of those they hired don't generate revenue for the gov't. They bailed out several companies that folded and IIRC, they still haven't been fully repaid by all of the others, although the $35M in fines to GM for their BS will help.

Helping people who CAN'T do for themselves is great, but Welfare programs only give money to people who aren't making enough to get by at a certain level. I would like to see more emphasis on finishing high school/GED and job training. Giving only money is a very weak effort and is incredibly short-sighted.

A lot of the money the gov't spends could be used to buy food for US citizens. Also, if they want to subsidize the oil companies, the result should be lower gas prices in the US, IMO. We still need to produce vehicles that are more efficient, though. Higher prices makes it impossible to sustain a business when people see any kind of service labor or tech support as a commodity, to be shopped for the lowest price. A logical vehicle for high-efficiency fuel use is cargo vans and work trucks that don't need to pull heavy equipment. There are millions on the roads, getting 15-20 MPG and that's ridiculous.

His comment was that the ROI on higher needs people is low, so less should be spent on them. First, people with needs shouldn't be seen as a profit/loss item and second, many have skills that are untapped because those working with them don't know how to find their potential. Many in the Autism spectrum are able to see patterns, do complex math and have abilities in scientific areas that make them uniquely qualified for this kind of work. They might not have the social skills of others, but they can still be very productive. Those with physical disabilities often make great contributions, too- neglecting people, based on perception of their abilities is a quick way to make the leap into human engineering.

i don't disagree.....but i'm not sure that is what the other guy was trying to say....case in point.....here the city spent a lot of money leveling all the curbs to make them wheelchair accessible.....a good thing....however that massive expense has only made the sidewalks unsafe for pedestrians as bicyclists now are able to use the access cuts and now do so almost exclusively..... in hindsight those that were supposed to benefit actually receive little in relation to the cost.....

 

[edpal]

...case in point.....here the city spent a lot of money leveling all the curbs to make them wheelchair accessible.....a good thing....however that massive expense has only made the sidewalks unsafe for pedestrians as bicyclists now are able to use the access cuts and now do so almost exclusively..... in hindsight those that were supposed to benefit actually receive little in relation to the cost.....

That is a problem, the bikes vs. the pedestrians. . . I haven't a clue on a solution But the curb-cuts greatly encourage bicyclists to stay out of the street. Without the curb-cuts adult bicyclists are reluctant to keep having to hop curbs with an adult size and cost bicycle since that will quickly destroy both bike and rider. Kids can do that since their weight is so low compared to the comparative strength of the bicycle.

[edit-add]I think the bikes in the street are a greater danger: the car is almost always gonna win THAT fight and a sudden car/bike accident may draw other vehicles into a collision, since the initiating acccident may not be as visible to other drivers.

 

[bachlover]

And if Canada invades the U.S. again, It will get it's but kicked again. We don't much like our White House being burned.

Illustrated convincingly by A. Jackson and the boys at The Battle of New Orleans.

 

[bachlover]

As in most wars, both sides got "it's(sic) butts kicked" to some degree. Fortunately for both sides, a surrender wasn't declared and we've lived harmoniously ever since. A true example of how it's possible for neighbouring countries to coexist peaceably.