3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2

[tonym]

Just picked up a used Wonderlove Deluxe but I'm not seeing a manual online. I generally know my way around an envelope filter but I was trying to find some advice specific to this one - anyone know where to find it or have words of wisdom?

Here's the link to the manual: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Maybe my favorite pedal. Have a great time! This is a link to one of my favorite demos as well:

 

[frohner151]

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[Down_Low]

Regretting selling my Proton v2 recently. I don't need it for the band I'm in, but I do miss playing around with it. Will have to think about grabbing another one soon. Until then at least I still have a Your Doom.

 

[aguacateojos]

Thanks gang, I couldn't find that anywhere! Guess I just didn't look in the right place. It sounded killer with my Iron Ether Subterranea at its first gig last night.

 

[Bassheart365]

Yeah, like I've been sayin...

Review – 3 Leaf Audio Octabvre, Wonderlove and Doom Pedals

 

[Snaxster]

Here we are, more than two years later.

And now nearly a further two months on.

Recently I acquired a clean Groove Regulator. Since previously I never played either a GR or the Meatball that inspired it, I wanted to see what that all was about. Also I wanted to see the expression of Spence's thinking and nascent skill as his first product.

It is instructive to compare the GR to the examples of his later work that I own (The Enabler, Proton v2, and Vulcan Bass Overdrive), in view of his accounts of his motives for designing them. Simplistically, I will say that Spence is about refinement and aesthetics both. Always those two together. He is an interesting cat and has crazy skill. Spence is a good person, too, I believe.

Anyway... my Groove Regulator snuck onto a chance recording the other night. There is little of it in the track, but its voice stands out therefore. Rather than write it all up again, I will cross-post:

Official Bluesman Vintage Club

 

[Matt Dean]

I'm a big fan of the GR2 and prefer it to the wonderlove.

 

[JohnDeereJack]

I'm a big fan of the GR2 and prefer it to the wonderlove.

Yup, me too. I had both the GR2 and the Wonderlove. I kept the GR2 and sold the Wonderlove pretty quickly, didn't find it anywhere near as good (intuitive/responsive/wet/juicy!) as the GR2.

 

[Grahams Groove]

1st - Just checking in to sing some quick praises. Found the Enabler I was seeking from a very friendly TBer, and I'm super impressed with build quality, tone, and overall design.

2nd -Props to Spencer for being incredibly responsive to several of my questions via email. Makes me want to buy more pedals from 3Leaf Audio...

3rd - Speaking of buying more 3Leaf pedals. I'm looking to buy and/or trade for a Wonderlove in order to fulfill all of my enveloping needs. If anyone is considering unloading one, feel free to PM me!

 

[seang15]

Sorry if its been discussed, but Will this club cover Pike Amplification, or should that be a separate club.

Thanks!

 

[overbybr]

We've discussed it here, and while it's the same guy, I don't know if an owner's club exists specifically for that.

 

[willsellout]

I'm a big fan of the GR2 and prefer it to the wonderlove.

The GR and GR2 are very similar to the Meatball whereas the Wonderlove doesn't sound anything like the Meatball. The GR2 is a better sounding filter for sure. It may not have the bells and whistles that Spencers later filters have but what good are bells and whistles when the filter falls flat?

 

[moishelichtfuss]

Quoting myself concerning this problem. I had the PWNZOR in a daisy-chain connected to one output of a Pedal Power Digital. A Polytune mini was also part of that chain. It connected the Polytune to its own output and maybe (needs more testing) the problem has disappeared. Maybe the display of the Polytune interfering?

Hi again.
One more episode in my ongoing series on PWNZOR troubleshooting. The problem (whizzing/spiraling sound from the PWNZOR when powering up the pedal board while having it connected to an amp) didn't go away by taking all effects with a display out of the (power) daisy chain, but now I think I found another clue:

The pedal only has this problem when the internal dip switch for the bypass mode is set to buffered bypass. It definitely goes away when it's set to true bypass. Apart from being totally okay with that, does anybody of you have a clue what that might mean?

 

[Grahams Groove]

Can anyone confirm that the circuitry/design of the You're Doom & Doom pedals is the same, save for the name/screen print? This seems to be the case, but I didn't see anything in past TB threads while searching last weekend.

Thanks!

 

[brandinstroy]

Can anyone confirm that the circuitry/design of the You're Doom & Doom pedals is the same, save for the name/screen print? This seems to be the case, but I didn't see anything in past TB threads while searching last weekend.

Thanks!

I asked this question to Spencer. He said its the exact same circuit.

 

[Snaxster]

The GR and GR2 are very similar to the Meatball whereas the Wonderlove doesn't sound anything like the Meatball. The GR2 is a better sounding filter for sure. It may not have the bells and whistles that Spencers later filters have but what good are bells and whistles when the filter falls flat?

You never tire of bashing the Wonderlove and the Proton on TalkBass nowadays, do you?

It took you a few years in each case, but I find it curious that you began by saying how great each of those pedals was, then eventually turned on them:

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Though I would never question your right to say about these pedals whatever you think, I can report to you that it’s like reading the writings of a jilted lover, forever after bitter, and for whom their ex can never again be said to have any redeeming qualities.

 

[willsellout]

You never tire of bashing the Wonderlove and the Proton on TalkBass nowadays, do you?

It took you a few years in each case, but I find it curious that you began by saying how great each of those pedals was, then eventually turned on them:

=36&c[user][0]=25621']Search Results for Query: wonderlove | TalkBass.com

=36&c[user][0]=25621']Search Results for Query: proton | TalkBass.com

Though I would never question your right to say about these pedals whatever you think, I can report to you that it’s like reading the writings of a jilted lover, forever after bitter, and for whom their ex can never again be said to have any redeeming qualities.

Cool.

 

[Bassheart365]

So...I ordered a Future Impact. Now what?

 

[Grahams Groove]

Question for Wonderlove users.

I've got the WL v1, and I have zero issues getting it to trigger with both of my basses. One is an active jazz, the other a passive P that has a pretty high output. I'm typically using the sensitivity knob in the 9:00-11:00 range, which is just past the verge of triggering for maximum definition on the opening of the envelope.

Anyway, the WL Deluxe release touted "increased sensitivity range for better compatibility with low output instruments." I'm wondering if someone can clarify what this means in terms of the filter's response and how it effects the sensitivity control? I'm considering upgrading to the Deluxe at some point for the addition of the external buffer switch and the easier access boost knob. However, I want to make sure I'm not getting a less useful response parameter in the process, since I'm pretty happy with how the v1 responds.

Any insight on the differences between the two is appreciated...

 

[karla684]

Question for Wonderlove users.

I've got the WL v1, and I have zero issues getting it to trigger with both of my basses. One is an active jazz, the other a passive P that has a pretty high output. I'm typically using the sensitivity knob in the 9:00-11:00 range, which is just past the verge of triggering for maximum definition on the opening of the envelope.

Anyway, the WL Deluxe release touted "increased sensitivity range for better compatibility with low output instruments." I'm wondering if someone can clarify what this means in terms of the filter's response and how it effects the sensitivity control? I'm considering upgrading to the Deluxe at some point for the addition of the external buffer switch and the easier access boost knob. However, I want to make sure I'm not getting a less useful response parameter in the process, since I'm pretty happy with how the v1 responds.

Any insight on the differences between the two is appreciated...

Hi,

I've currently got the Wonderlove Deluxe on my board, but previously owned WL version 1. Before selling version 1 I did a side-by-side comparison between the two. Mostly to see if I felt the sound of the filter was different. I couldn't notice any difference at all, they sounded very similar to my ears.
Regarding the sensitivity, I used to have it at around 9 o'clock in the previous version, and that is the same setting I'm using on the Deluxe. I have always felt that it is very sensitive (ha ha...) to were you set it, but that has been similar between the two versions. I play a Warwick Corvette Std with active preamp. I'd say they are medium output level.

The main reason for me to go for the deluxe was the foot switchable expression pedal output. And I'm very happy with it.

Cheers,
Kalle